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‘But there is a difference between recognising AI use and proving its use. So I tried an experiment. … I received 122 paper submissions. Of those, the Trojan horse easily identified 33 AI-generated papers. I sent these stats to all the students and gave them the opportunity to admit to using AI before they were locked into failing the class. Another 14 outed themselves. In other words, nearly 39% of the submissions were at least partially written by AI.‘

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 27 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It should be treated the same as if another student wrote the paper. If it was used as a research tool where you didn't repeat it word for word then it's cool, it can be treated like a peer that helped you research. But using it to fully write then it's an instant fail because you didn't do anything.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, sure. But how can you identify its use? You'd better be absolutely confident or there are likely to be professional consequences.

Not to mention completely destroy your relationship with the student (maybe not so relevant to professors, but relationship building is the main job of effective primary and secondary educators.)

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 0 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Have the student submit drafts with the first rough draft written in class and submitted at the end. Then weekly or daily improved drafts. If the finished paper is totally and material different then it's a red flag. If the student wants to drastically change the paper then the teacher must approve.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 14 hours ago

“Chat GPT, this is my rough draft. I want you to polish it a little and add some, but not a lot. This is meant to be a second pass, not the final draft. Make a couple mistakes on the grammar.”

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Can easily be faked with AI. You can just prompt AI to make outlines, drafts, mistakes, fix the mistakes, etc.

I've presented on this at teacher conferences, for what it's worth. There's no effective way to detect AI usage accurately when the text-writing process isn't supervised. The solutions need to accept that reality.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Then papers will all have to be written in person on an internet free machine or hand written.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Or we could focus on the core of teaching, which is building relationships with students. Then, with that rapport, students will trust their teachers when they explain why getting AI to do the work for them is hurting their own education. We can also change our assessment practices, so that students don't feel the pressure to write a "perfect" essay.

And, yes; occasionally require students to do a bit of writing with invigilation.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

that is an unrealistic solution

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

True, it has never been tried before.

[–] RogerMeMore@reddthat.com 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Well said! It's like plagiarizing from another student. Using AI as a tool is one thing, but completely relying on it to write the paper is cheating in my book.