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Every day I am forced to confront that the the Democratic Party won the White House and Congress in 2020 and instead of doing the smart thing and ending the filibuster, packing the court, and going scorched Earth on the GOP which, mind you, had just tried to overthrow the election, they kicked back and proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note except cut a blank check for the most televised genocide of the last 30 years.
A disciplined party could have un-fucked everything trump did in the span of a few month, but they chose not to. They chose not to, and now we're all paying for it.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
Yeah. Instead of blaming the criminals that broke in, let’s instead blame the person that didn’t lock the door.
For the record: This is the same logic conservatives use when blaming undocumented immigrants for taking jobs instead of the assholes that are hiring them.
But by all means- don’t let this get in the way of some good ol’ manufactured outrage.
You know what? If I hire someone to guard my house, and my house gets robbed, because the person I hired (1) didn't lock the door, (2) didn't call the police, and (3) was too afraid to confront the robbers themselves, then yes, I will blame the person I hired for not doing their fucking job.
The conceit of representative democracy is that our representatives are public servants. That we appoint them to serve our interests. And when they fail at that task we have the right and the fucking duty to hold them accountable for their failure.
Cool story bro. Normalize conservative corruption and blame everyone but them all you want. Maybe it’s fun to be outraged and maybe there’s just not enough of it to satiate you? I really can’t under this logic.
But don’t complain when no one outside your window tunnel takes you seriously. No offense.
Oh, there's plenty of blame to go around. I'm not going to support conservative corruption. I'm also not going to waste my time and money supporting an organization that's clearly unable (or unwilling) to fight conservative corruption.
But hey, it's your time and money. If you want to piss it away on the corrupt, incompetent, Democrats, people who've proven they can't stand up to the Republicans and will waste any opportunity the voters give them, be my guest.
Supporting those losers comes with a hell of an opportunity cost, though.
I’ll spend my time and money on who has the best chance to defeat a corrupt administration. If I wanted to waste my money- it put it towards supporting untested and unproven 3rd party candidates that offer flight-by-night campaigns and disappear into a three and a half year long stint of ineffectiveness.
Reference?
What’s Jill Stein been up to lately? Anyone know? Cornell West? Anyone?
[crickets]
The term “put up or shut up” applies here. And if/when a viable and believable candidate shows up on a 3rd party ticket, I’d be happy to support them. But until then, my time and money is better spent in the actual fight- not a sideshow act that tilts at windmills.
Yet you are more than willing to waste your money on supporting a party that has proven that they are't willing to defeat a corrupt administration, even when they have all the power?
Giving speeches, teaching, doing interviews and debates. I know, because I saw them. It turns out, that when you don't pay attention to someone, you end up not knowing what they are doing.
Sure ya did.
And if only speeches moved mountains, eh? She’s every bit as ineffective as any establishment democrat you could name.
But you do you.
Best of luck!
I don't disagree. But here you are, shitting on people who actually want fascism to stop.
But you do you.
Lol. What would you do if you couldn’t argue against your own rewritten revision of someone else’s argument?
It's like if you got robbed, and then instead of locking the door or taking literally any preventive measure, you just think "surely I would never get robbed twice" and then do nothing
Then you get robbed again, because you live in a shady neighborhood and you're gonna keep getting fucking robbed until you lock the door
lol! No matter how you illustrate it- you’re still blaming the wrong person!
Pay attention: The ROBBER is the bad guy in this story.
But, their negligence doesn't just screw themselves over, it screws the whole country.
To continue this analogy, perhaps you leave your house for a while and trust your friend to look after it. But they leave the door unlocked and you get robbed. They aren't "the bad guy" but I would certainly lose trust in them.
This is the last time I’m going to explain the analogy:
• Leaving a house unlocked
• Robbing said house.
ONE of those things is illegal. Yet so many blame the person for leaving the house unlocked. Was it the right thing to do? No. Was it smart? No. Was it a huge mistake in judgement? Absolutely. But should they be blamed?
In a logical world, No!
But- apparently, we live in a world now where conservative corruption is so normalized, that people look right past the obvious and go to blaming anyone but the criminals that did the crime.
And what do you propose we do about the robbers?
I propose we advocate for politicians to do something about it, and thus criticize those who don't. That seems reasonable to me.
Well, I’d start by holding them accountable for their actions- and applying harsher penalties for even attempting to enter a home uninvited.
This is the problem.
Republican corruption has become so normalized that in nearly every post about trump’s criminal acts- is just comment after comment about how it’s the democrats fault.
Are they blameless? Fuck no they’re not! And this is where we reach the nuance of the discussion.
Trying to put the blame on those responsible is in no way suggesting that the “victim” couldn’t have been more responsible themselves. There’s tons of shit they could have done to avoid this, but at the end of the day- as I said:
Only one of the things said in my example is illegal. And until the day arrives where one leaving their door unlocked is deemed an illegal act, I’m going to keep blaming the burglar.
Man I'm just not sure what you're even arguing for at this point.
Did I say it should be illegal to not lock the door? Did I say you should be arrested and the burglar should go free? I don't think I said that.
Republicans should be held accountable by going to prison. Democrats should be held accountable by not being re-elected
"Don't criticize my party for failing to stop Trump, that makes you a Trump supporter." is their bad faith argument.
You just said that can’t be blamed in your last comment but now they can be blamed but also it’s still not actually their fault… please get an actual argument.
No logic, only vote blue no matter who!!
What are you talking about “should they be blamed?”
Yes. Neglect for some things is, in fact, a crime. You can absolutely blame people for neglecting things.
I'm not gonna hold my breath on the Republican Party holding it's contingent responsible. Thus the only other party with power better take some action.
It may not be the victim's fault but it is their responsibility.
this is more like blaming a judge for not locking up a known serial killer
No, it’s not. Using your example- it’s like blaming the victim for fitting the profile of the serial killer’s M.O.
they are not the victim, they had the power to intervene and chose not to
They’re also not at fault.
if you are a judge and you are brought evidence of a serial killer murdering people, and instead of convicting them you let them go free, it is your fault if they murder more people. You did nothing to stop them when you were handed the chance to
Bad analogy. That assumes that they caught them doing this before and allowed it to continue. Roe v Wade was the door that was left unlocked.
See, the difference is that my analogy actually makes sense to the subject being discussed, yours creates an entirely different scenario that is easier for you to argue.
It’s called a straw man.
Your analogy doesn’t make sense.
I expected it wouldn’t from your perspective.
You have no idea what my perspective is. This is the first time we have interacted.
You’re in defense of shifting the blame for the results of what conservatives do on to the democrats.
That’s all I need to know.
All I said was your analogy didn’t make sense.
Sounds like a you problem.
And that may very well be the case but instead of explaining it you immediately got mad at me for shit I did not do.
Bad analogy. That assumes that they caught them doing this before and allowed it to continue. Roe v Wade was the door that was left unlocked.
See, the difference is that my analogy actually makes sense to the subject being discussed, yours creates an entirely different scenario that is easier for you to argue.
It’s called a straw man.
We did catch them. That's literally what the post is about, we saw all the horrible things trump did in his first term, we got the chance to stop him in 2020, but nobody did anything. And now hes doing even more horrible things what a fucking surprise
And you can guarantee that third party candidates would have done differently?
I never said they would have. We need to hold people accountable regardless of party, that is the only way to achieve change
On that we can agree.
The people who hire undocumented immigrants are good people and understand the positive impact they have on those seeking a better life. I would know, I was once one of those immigrants and got the fuck out of that hellhole of a country as soon as I could. The only assholes I see are the people making it harder for people seeking a better life. It's already hard enough to live anywhere as it is without your help.
Way to miss the entire point bud.
I clearly wasn't replying to your main point, bud.
Well, way to follow along at least Champ! Gold star for you!
It was a side comment not meant to follow along, Champ. Ironic how you're having trouble following that.
They're a troll, ignore them.