this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2025
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This is how the whole AI bubble works. There is minimal value in AI but every company currently needs to be seen to be into AI to be perceived as cutting edge and modern.
The sensible counties will just market themselves as being into AI and not spend a penny on stuff they don't need. The majority of dumb companies are wasting money on AI and getting little for their return.
The AI stock bubble is going to pop as valuations get more and more divorced from reality of revenues and profit. We're already at the point that Nvidia is valued at $5trillion on revenues $130bn. That revenue is inflated by a rush to stockpile chips for data centres that don't even exist yet as big tech companies fear being left behind.
Nvidia is massively over valued - it made a profit of 44bn last financial year, that's a price to earning ratio of 113x. That means the share price is 113x for $1. It's profits will be up this year but still won't justify that ratio. And some of it's deals now are stock and equity swaps to sell goods (such as a recent deal with OpenAI).
The p/e for the stock market fluctuates but 10- 20x is about long term. The nasdaq is on a recent high of market is at 31x, which is a decline from a recent high. Nvidia is at 113x. Madness and this bubble is going to burst. When it does, nvidias order book will disappear, as will it's share price.
A lot of people are going to get burnt by this bubble.
Idk theres decent value, but that comes from training and selling the ai itself for different usecases where workers use it, not much value in actually replacing workers