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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 230 points 10 months ago (7 children)

But you have a Daddy and Mommy who love you!

And, a Windows Home Server! Does that make you happy?

They had me until windows

[–] brandon@lemmy.world 161 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s what turns it from a children’s book into a horror story

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Indoctrination.

[–] msage@programming.dev 73 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Imagine growing up with a Windows home server... ugh

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm usually a Windows "shill" or at least a casual defender of it, as I work in a Windows environment and it's not as bad as people pretend it is. No shade against Linux, I love it and Windows is bad. Just not like "I'd rather self-castrate" bad.

Anyway...

But for a home server? Either be super lazy and set up samba shares from your Windows desktop for the drives (avoid having a server at all) or bite the bullet and use Linux. You'll get so much more out of a Linux server that it's not even funny.

[–] Magnum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'd rather run a rusty nail through my sack than booting Windows

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Have fun with that then. Sorry about your balls.

If you're competent and technologically saavy enough to use a Linux distro as your daily driver, you can learn to make Windows work for you too.

Waste of effort if you don't need to interact with any Windows environments for school or work, but definitely possible.

For me? I'm happy to get paid to automate shit using PowerShell that should have been basic built in functionality from the start. PowerShell is just the most convenient scripting language due to being packed-in with most Windows installs, and tons of built in functionality for interfacing with other Microsoft products. So as long as Microsoft keeps sucking, I've got a comfy paycheck.

And if the year of the Linux desktop ever finally happens? I'm ready, I'll be cheering, and I'll be ready to get paid helping companies to make the switch.

[–] msage@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

After learning too much about Linux it's impossible for me to use Windows.

It hurts me at every step, making me question my life and everyones sanity who handles that stuff.

It's very very bad and nobody will pry Gentoo from my hands.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 10 months ago

It’s very rough coming back after 20+ years. Easy things on Linux quickly become a wasted day going down six trillion rabbit holes on Windows before you can even accomplish your seemingly simple task. Most problems in Windows are much more easily resolved by booting into Linux to make the repairs.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The few times I tried bash it was awful.
At least Powershell let's me manipulate data more freely and organized.

But Linux has way cooler packages (Window Server 2025 finally implemented winget ootb).

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have not used PowerShell that much, because I'm so used to bash that it felt foreign.

There are other shells you can try, more modern, perhaps they will be more to your liking.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Understandbly theres no real need to use powershell outside of the windows realm.

As far as my limited experience understood it: Everything powershell gives you is in a properly formatted data type (e.g. bool, text, int, etc.) and thus can be more easily manipulated than in bash where everything is treated as text.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

Linux has been fine as a desktop since i386 days.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I'd definitely rather boot windows, but to each his own.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I work with Windows and it's AWFUL. Did you know the taskbar is a fucking ELECTRON APP? Everything is so slow. And you have to go through hoops to do what you want, and that setting isn't available in the settings electron app, you have to go through these 5 screens to find the magic button that opens the win 95 style dialog box to set what you want. It's so So SO BAD.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm using it 95% of my time with it by remoting with a program to the server and experience reduced window quality and speed anyway.
I want it finishing the task and not look pretty.

And ew. 95 theme. How old are you? At least use Aero/flat and then log off to reduce the 0.5% load from the active user session

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think they are trying to exaggerate how very outdated some Windows UI elements look (primarily dialog boxes?). I doubt they would use a 95 theme on an OS that's hard to theme and annoying to use.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, Windows isn't that bad, but it's not that good either. On servers, everything requires a million clicks or some random terminal command that's impossible to find documentation for (was just passed down from senior to junior over the ages). I had to configure one for testing (embedded product that needed to work in Windows environments as well as Linux), and it took hours to do the most basic task. Granted, none of us were sysadmins, just devs, but we weren't familiar with Linux or Windows servers, just desktops, and Linux was by far easier to configure.

Don't pick Windows for your server without a good reason, you'll get much more value from learning Linux than Windows.

[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I must admit, my home rack server runs hyper-v, it is free and I have MSDN. Of course inside the hyper-v I run ten linux boxes.

Proxmox really didn't exists before and I didn't want to use VMware.

Next one I will do with proxmox.

Please dont judge me.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

One day our Linux servers were hosed at work because the Windows server hosting them got all fucked up during Cloudstrike. I’ll never understand why you’d host Linux on Windows rather than the other way around.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Was Zeus mad you disnt employ Linux?

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 1 points 10 months ago

I was about to do the same, had the USB stick prepared and everything, then I tried proxmox. Just lucked out.

[–] dan@upvote.au 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Still cool.

And actually not a bad idea from MS, but I'm sure they killed it with MSification.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

True, but this book is the best thing Microsoft has made.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 16 points 10 months ago

@MimicJar @moseschrute *touches finger to earpiece*

...hang on, I'm getting word that the most recent edition of this book will crash your nvram's firmware

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Wow, thanks, I hated it!

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago

_THE CLOUD


MORE MAGNIFICENT UP CLOSE THAN I COULD HAVE IMAGINED FROM AFAR..._

IN DATACENTROPOLIS, WE DREAMED OF ATTAINING SAFE PASSAGE TO THE UTOPIA.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

Funny you mention that...

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Wow, seriously who tf uses Windows home server?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it would be easier to learn Linux, even if you still used windows for desktop

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's probably true if you consider Linux server vs Windows server. Windows server sucks.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Windows Server is less of a general use server, and more of just a staging platform for Microsoft's other specific server based software installs. And even a lot of those don't co-mingle on the same server well.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, even Microsoft doesn't give a shit about Windows server since Azure runs on Linux. :)

[–] Pixel@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Companies can have multiple business lines.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Exchange Server is effectively dead mid October too. Technically they have Exchange Server SE as an option, but it's clearly not how they want people using Exchange anymore. They don't even want hybrid setups.

Which is extra annoying because if you have Azure AD (I guess it's Entra ID now) syncing from an on prem AD forest, half of the mailbox management shit in Exchange Online just doesn't work and forces you to make the changes on-prem anyway.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I use it in a VM because it's better than Windows 10, some programs refuse to run on Linux, and I don't need to provide the VM with an internet connection.

My actual server is an old laptop and it does not run Windows.

Even my friend who insists that Windows is superior still uses Linux for his gaming server because it's easier to set up and manage.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Your friend is wise.
He uses the a specific tool for a specific task.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's actually fine. Though why not regular Windows 7, is there a special task for your VM?

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was the best option at the time, and I didn't feel like setting up Windows more than once as I gradually added new software and removed other software.

That particular VM doesn't get booted very often anymore.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Oh I see, it's an older setup.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In 2008? More than you'd think.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I forget it's been that long ago. -_-

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im guessing though. I remember seeing it on 4chan as a teenager so thats between 2006 and 2010 or aomething :p

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Your guess is correct. It should be 2007 or so. :)

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, considering it hasn't existed in years, I think you can imagine the answer to your question 😅

[–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I initially just thought it was bad english, TIL "Windows Home Server" is a proper noun.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It was perfect until that second to last page

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

It's on the very first page, opposite to the office server page, and they acknowledge the Author does not exist and that it's basically an ad for Windows server.