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A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
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I want to apologize for changing the description without telling people first. After reading arguments about how AI has been so overhyped, I'm not that frightened by it. It's awful that it hallucinates, and that it just spews garbage onto YouTube and Facebook, but it won't completely upend society. I'll have articles abound on AI hype, because they're quite funny, and gives me a sense of ease knowing that, despite blatant lies being easy to tell, it's way harder to fake actual evidence.
I also want to factor in people who think that there's nothing anyone can do. I've come to realize that there might not be a way to attack OpenAI, MidJourney, or Stable Diffusion. These people, which I will call Doomers from an AIHWOS article, are perfectly welcome here. You can certainly come along and read the AI Hype Wall Of Shame, or the diminishing returns of Deep Learning. Maybe one can even become a Mod!
Boosters, or people who heavily use AI and see it as a source of good, ARE NOT ALLOWED HERE! I've seen Boosters dox, threaten, and harass artists over on Reddit and Twitter, and they constantly champion artists losing their jobs. They go against the very purpose of this community. If I hear a comment on here saying that AI is "making things good" or cheering on putting anyone out of a job, and the commenter does not retract their statement, said commenter will be permanently banned. FA&FO.
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I have a question about if I'm allowed to be here. Here's my stance:
It's just fantasy in regards to the replacing everything. The same thing happened back in the 60s and the 70s with the fantasy that computers were going to make everything in life easy peasy. Flying cars and all of that. No doubt computers have made our lives easier, and have progressed us as a society (debatable when it comes to social media). But it isnt the end all, be all that it was promised to be. I still don't have a hoverboard or a personal flying car, which I DO have to admit I'm super bummed about.
Just look at the paperless society era. We still print stuff out, 40-50 years later. Maybe a lot less, but it didn't put us all out of jobs, it just made us work smarter and maybe made things a little easier to reference.
That's all this AI stuff is, its just the next evolution of reference. If anyone thinks it's ready to put me out of a job, whelp I double dog dare them. One company I'm associated with is at this stage, drunk on the AI. It's all just super disconnected execs fantasizing in between drunken lunches and boat purchases. Their day is coming, don't worry.
Not the mod, but IMO anyone who has a rational outlook on AI is fine. That is, it's a technology that has some use cases for some problems, mostly involving neural net stuff that the average person will probably never interact with.
The problem people are the ones who insist that it will 'revolutionize society', that the well-documented errors of the tech are overblown, that it's not currently in a bubble, that it's not being used in utterly unethical ways that nobody asked for, that AGI is just around the corner, etc.
I think generative AI for pure entertainment is bs "AI-Girlfriend". But also that for accessibility for blind people it might be helpful: Transcribe images into spoken text. For deaf people it might transcribe audio to text they can read on a display. And this tech uses neural nets as well. But copyrights of artists and creators all such systems are trained on should be valued, especially when sold for a profit. Training data should be made public, or the AI it is trained on hidden data should be forced to open up about their shady practices. This is where my position on "FÜCK AI" stands. Also blind trust and hype in these systems is not justified in my humble opinion.