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[Mega thread] - Biden ends bid for presidency (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
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Biden announced he's ending his bid for the presidency via X (formerly twitter).

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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I didn't want to believe it but they're already in the comments. We need to be vocal. Kamala is a great candidate.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

'Beating the Republican Fascist agenda' is a great candidate. I don't really care how that is spelled on the ballot.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll vote for virtually anyone the Democrats nominate to stop the genocidal dictator, but my first choice, of course, will always be-

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Alright, fuck it. I'LL run. I'm 40, nobody knows me so they don't hate me, I think Hitler was bad, and I'll let you guys smoke weed and keep your pronouns.

And for the republicans in the room, I'm not going to send anyone to take your guns. That sounds like a bad idea, that we already saw play out in Waco TX. Nobody wants that.

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And to all the mentally crazy voters, HEYMYNAMESBOBANDIMHERETOMAKEEVERYBODYSAFEFROMTHELIZARDPEOPLEFROMEATINGOURBRAINSANDTHEGOVERNMENTPOTBELLIEDPIGSBACONVIVALEREVOLUTION!!!!!

And to the dyslexic voters, Helol hwo aer yuo?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Shit, quick someone get him on the ballots!

[–] queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's my main deciding point, and why I'm happy Biden stepped down. I didn't think he'd win the Rust Belt. Harris might.

My main vote is "Not Trump's Fascism."

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I will absolutely vote whoever is opposite of trump on the ticket. But a black woman winning the rust belt? That would be wild. I'm all for it, mind you, but that would be some crazy shit.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Trump kept climbing the polls in PA, which is the Keystone state of this election.

I'm not sorry, and I will be here all night.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How is she a good candidate? She stood against everything progressives stand for as a prosecutor and hasn't apologized or clarified that she supports marijuana legalization, abolition of for-profit prisons, or disproportionately prosecuting minorities.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? When she was running for president in 2019, she released detailed plans about how she would legalize marijuana, abolish private prisons, and reform the carceral system.

I get that you probably weren't aware of her evolved stance on these things, but a single google search could have shown you that you were incorrect on every single point you made.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And I'm happy to be wrong about her evolved state. Thanks.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

If I could give you some kind of prize I would. Have a meaningless pixel trophy instead, and an upvote: 🏆

[–] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 4 points 10 months ago

This is the bravest comment I've seen today, you deserve an internet prize 🏆

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I love this site

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck are you talking about? When she was running for president in 2019, she released detailed plans about how she would legalize marijuana, abolish private prisons, and reform the carceral system.

Has she done those things? (I sincerely don't know.)

I've heard that she's revised her stances, but even in 2019 there was some question regarding the sincerity of her evolving viewpoints.

We're likely to get 8 years of her if she wins, so I think it's entirely reasonable to want her to affirm her stances in some of these areas. We won't be able to move any further left than she allows. Sure, she's not Trump, and I'm going to vote for her. It would be nice to have hope she'll do more than just move right more slowly than Trump though.

She says very little, and nothing convincing, about some of the most serious charges against her, like that she fought hard to keep innocents in prison and failed to fight hard against corrupt cops.

If elected president, Harris seems as likely as any of her Democratic rivals, and far more likely than Donald Trump, to pursue a criminal-justice-reform agenda that overlaps with policies I favor as a civil libertarian. And I do not hold it against Harris that as a municipal and state official she enforced many laws that I regard as unjust. All the candidates now running for president will, if elected, preside over the enforcement of some laws that they and I regard as unjust.

But like her rivals, the reforms that Harris would sign into law as president would depend mostly on what Democrats in Congress could get to her desk. Far more important is how she would preside over a federal legal system and bureaucracy that is prone to frequent abuses. And her record casts significant doubts about whether she can be trusted to oversee federal law enforcement, the military, intelligence agencies, the detention of foreign prisoners, and more.

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I mean, she'll have ample opportunity to expound on that. But prison reform and legalizing marijuana were platforms she ran on in 2019. I haven't seen anything from her that would indicate she's reversed her position since then.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Are you new to the democratic party?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/aug/01/were-tulsi-gabbards-attacks-kamala-harris-record-c/

Harris "put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana."

Notably, the figures dropped dramatically during Harris’ tenure, from 817 marijuana-related admissions in her first year in office to 137 in her last.

She laughed because it was funny and I'm tired of people telling me it's not. 💥 🔫

She's been a prosecutor, senator, and now VP. She has the experience. She can speak in complete sentences. She is a neo-liberal but that was a given. All Democratic candidates since Clinton have been neo-liberals. The idea that Kamala is anti-progressive is false.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah it is ridiculous. Essentially "why didn't you legalize marijuana when you were AG?" Because that job isn't about changing the laws it's about prosecuting the law.

Bad enough SCOTUS is changing laws on a whim (instead of interpreting which is their actual job) we shouldn't be expecting everyone on every level just disregard laws they disagree with. I agree that marijuana criminalization is stupid and should be repealed, but push for legislators to change the law rather than push for more people to ignore the law.

[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let me ask you a question: Harris Or Trump?

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Harris, 100% I was wrong about the statement. She evolved her stance and has grown.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Of course they are. They started when it was just rumored that Biden would drop out.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 10 months ago

Of course they are. It's infuriating. Even the "anyone but trump" idiots undermines confidence in Kamala.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If she she's was a great candidate she would have been the candidate 4 years ago.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She's an adequate candidate for the task at hand, which is beating Trump. Biden no longer is.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's far from a assured. She has a ton of issues on her own.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

She's an improvement over Biden. And just look at all the time, money, and effort Republicans wasted against someone who's no longer even running. They're flailing and trying to find something that will stick.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Improvement cognitively, I don't know if I'd say she's and Improvement in any other way whatsoever.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Fuck ooooffffffffff my god these flippant bullshit one liners get so old

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By the same token, Biden was tied for dead last in the 2008 primary. Things change.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

That's an interesting factoid, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Do you have a source on that?

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you’d applied this logic to trump would have even posted this?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wha... what? What does that even mean?

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The republicans are running last election’s loser.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Yeah?

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So she hasn't gained any knowledge or experience in the last 4 years? We're all just born with all the knowledge and experience we will ever have?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

Honestly, doubt it.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dear god, please tell me this isn’t the best you people can come up with.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago

Funny that's what I say when I hear Harris is gonna be the candidate.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She was on the ticket 4 years ago. She is VP. Now she's on top. Kamala 2024!

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm concerned you couldn't grasp that by candidate we were talking about the Presidential candidate.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I understand. Kamala is going to president of the United States of America. And it's going to be awesome.