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Liberals are proud of it too, emailed my MP so now in their mailing list. Knowingly using the "for the kids" argument. I'm glad the CPC is not in power but man is Carney and his MPs are really brazzen.
What's the best thing Carney has done that wasn't a CPC policy?
His international ties have been generally good. PP is too trump lite to have done any of that. Carney is a traditional conservative which is why we saw floor crossers and many conservative policies. PP is too far right for most Canadians who generally speaking are centre right/left.
Carney is just doing the Ratchet Effect for Canada. By governing as a conservative, Carney is getting people acclimatized to Pierre Poilievre's stances. Progressives may get the odd bone thrown to them. Come election time, Canadians are going to hear "Vote Liberal to stop the Conservatives!" and "A vote for NDP is splitting the left!" Liberals will continue to move to the right knowing that their fear mongering will keep progressives in line. Meanwhile the Overton Window will continue to move right cause the Liberals will block anything progressive to chase those sweet, sweet conservative voters who will only vote conservative anyways.
I mean that's what I'm saying. I don't regret voting Carney over PP and even NDP at the time cause frankly I did not like Jagmeet at all. But Avi is promising and well liberal support is definitely falling due to the more conservative policies. However I still do not consider Carney and PP the same type of conservatism since politics are always a spectrum.
But he's nothing like Trump. Many of his policies that were criticized for being 'Trump' have now been adopted by Carney.
Talking about his anti vax policies
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1532369916812206080?lang=en
How about his fight against "woke-ism"
https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1877113935347712242?lang=en
I can go on but gas tax cuts or corporate cuts are again traditional CONSERVATIVE policies as I have said Carney is.
But Poilievre is far more right with things that no centered politician be it right or left will touch. There is a reason why you don't hear these type of things anymore now that he's not running and post trump cause that's what got him into hot water. Now acting as if his old statements and policies are no longer valid and that any conservative policies are somehow unique to him. Again there is a reason there were a decent number of floor crossers. And like wise some more liberal MPs that left the liberal party as well.
Edit wrong link
I support vaccine mandates, but the speech you linked is actually pretty good.
Sorry that's my mistake I shared the wrong link corrected (hate doing stuff on mobile), but my point being just because Carney has conservative policies does not validate PP. And I mean that speech in a vacuum and not looking at rhetoric before is fine. Trump had the EXACT stuff about affordability, tax cuts, etc and look where Trump is now, the whole "affordability is a hoax." He flips on a dime very Trump like and essentially a right populist politician. Not saying Carney is better on affordability and all but with PPs historical comments he is very Trump like.. You cannot ignore it and just act like it never happened.
Corrected link: https://x.com/PierrePoilievre/status/1877113935347712242?lang=en
Here's another one of his pre Trump thoughts
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.7029673
I don't have a problem with it. He values free speech a hell of a lot more than Carney and the liberals. I kind of like living in a democracy.
Do you think promoting free speech is Trumpian?
I can speak what I want and I don't see any Trump like rhetoric from Carney on democracy. But a politician speaking and promoting anti vax which has been disproven, you don't see that as an issue?
I have given pretty detailed examples and explanations, all I got were deflections. So at this point I'm done, have a nice day.
Edit also will add Trump WAS also a huge advocate for free speech, look where the US is at right now. If you don't think PP as a far right (albeit less than Trump but for a Canadian) then you are a fool. And look at measles outbreak and tell me you still think being anti vax is fine.
Well, he’s taken a stand against the POS Trump. Bachelor’s in Economics at Harvard. Master of Philosophy at Oxford. Doctor of Philosophy from Oxford.
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But what has he actually done? Other than dramatically increase our debt. Are you a fan of bill C-22?