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As time rolls on im increasingly confused by the growing chasm between the lovers and the haters.
FWIW im firmly team fuckai. I find the implications for the future and for my children kinda terrifying.
The part I dont really understand is that to me it just seems SO inescapably terrible for any specific purpose, but people still seem to think ita useful.
It's because AI is such a huge umbrella of things, some of it genuinely useful and others just a pure detriment to the world, and the discourse has become so vitriolic that there isn't room for nuance or discussion.
For example, I have a friend working in bioinformatics and a huge number of people in his field love AI. It's incredibly useful for their research. These aren't out of touch boomers, they're multi-doctorate holding, cutting-edge researchers with intimate knowledge of both neural nets and their field of expertise and they find AI (typically not the commercial-facing generative AI, but sometimes that, too) useful for what they're doing. It's anecdotal, but the actual experts I've talked to have said it sped up their work and opened new avenues of research.
That said, it's pretty obvious all of the absolute fuckery that is coming along with these companies; the slop, the job loss, the enshittification, the privacy nightmares, the theft of art and literature, the literal damage it's doing to people's ability to think–I could go on. It's easy to find reasons to be against AI in totality.
If you go into AI spaces, the vast majority of fans aren't fans of the slop or companies, either. They're mostly just optimistic that the improvements of AI will be so destabilizing that we all have to remake basically all of our systems and we'll only be left with the benefits. If AI figures out a cure for every disease, healthcare is going to be destabilized, but you'll still have every cure. If AI takes every job, you can't really have capitalism anymore, so what happens next?
Again, it's anecdotal, and at this point I'm fully atop my soap box, but my experience has been that people who are AI "fans" actually hate the companies and the way that AI is being used. What they're hoping for is the world that comes after 'the big breakthrough' that breaks all the systems.
I think there's room for nuance. For the record, I'm a writer and game dev every time I see someone pop into my social media talking about using AI to write or make a game (or replace human creativity in any real way), I wanna beat them to death with my laptop, but when I see a new application for AI in cancer research, or a nearly century old math conjecture proven, I do feel a little optimistic, too.
In reality, yes, but in common discourse people mean LLM slop and image/video generation because that is what is being marketed to the general public. The acronym has been coopted by techbros.
TL;DR: AI isn't just LLMs. Hell, LLMs aren't even bad. Big AI (aka capitalism) is where the problems lie. If you're gonna be mad, be mad at the right thing - capitalism, enshittification, copyright abuse, surveillance, hype, influencers.
It's still the same bad thing as it always was, just wearing a shinier hat now.
Agree. And let me screed about it even more -
By common discourse, I think you mean "...by chronically online experts". As backed by...what? Vibes in echo chambers?
A surprising number of people who speak confidently about AI appear not to understand the thing they're criticising.
We've seen this shit before and we never learn.
30 years ago, everyone knew that MSG was bad and video games caused increased violence. Both turned out to be manufactured consensus - speculative letters and mouse-injection studies boosted by "experts" into public panic.
I'd wager a dollar that most rabidly anti-AI people don't grok that the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry (yes, that recent) was awarded for machine learning in protein folding - cracking a 50-year-old problem with real applications to drug discovery for Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.
I use AI (image analysis, folding, STT, clinical audits...yes, even LLMs) every day. They're useful. But the online discourse around AI has become cartoonishly one-dimensional.
AI = GPTs = slop = bad is a category error, perpetuated either in partisan bad faith or simple lack of examination.
And just to tank the down votes even more -
https://blog.andymasley.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about