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I'm increasingly wondering why people in the US aren't taking to the streets in their thousands.

I'd also like to share a poem by Martin Niemöller, who was a pastor in Germany during the Nazi regime and even supported the Nazis at the beginning:

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me (Martin Niemöller)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

define large, because every major city is already hitting frequent protests in the thousands

[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

“Why are there no” should be “why aren’t news outlets covering the”

Search for the hashtag #50501 on any social media platform. Check c/50501.

The protests are happening. News media just wants to suck Trump’s dick so they can “survive” the fascist takeover so they’re not covering them. Same reason Reddit is censoring criticism of Musk (source)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for the clarification. I'm very glad that they're protest's, but it's a shame that the news media doesn't report about that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

You misspelled "oligarch propaganda outlets"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

50501 didn't turn out to be a prank? My state's "organizer" was a deleted reddit post with no other contact info, the posters named three different start times, and only two people claimed to have links to the signal chat and stopped replying when I asked for it, even though they offered.

I visited the subreddit three days before it was supposed to take place, and they were still figuring out basics. One of the top posts was discussing the dress code (consensus seemed to be wearing blue + American flag scarfs), and the one person pointing out how impractical and dangerous that was for a protest was getting downvoted.

Thats the reason I'm not protesting, btw. One protest in my area and it seemed like either a joke, a honeypot, or like a teenager came up with it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure what your area is, but 50501 has become an ID for basically all the protests I’ve heard about. They’re ongoing. There’s another big one on Saturday (April 5th).

Consider it a joke if you want, but people are showing up and protesting because they don’t know what else to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

If people are actually protesting, of course I don't consider it a joke. I just thought the one in February 5th was a joke, everyone was guilt tripping me for asking questions but refused to answer them.

Three different start times, two different addresses, and everyone pretending there's a signal chat just feels like a trick.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Demonstrations have become so predictable that people ignore them now. Politicians know that if you wait a few days they will be forgotten. What you really need to do is shut down the nation like the French rail unions do.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America is massive

The media is controlled by the elite to not cover demonstrations

They’re getting bigger every week

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Also, a lot of people just don't have time. I don't mean "they have a busy schedule and don't want to reschedule". I mean there is a significant preventative of the population who camper afford to take time off from work.

Many hourly employees don't have vacation time. And they can't afford to miss a single day of work. They may even be retaliated against (or at least think they will) for missing work.

America is fucked.

Also, because of the lack of time, they might not even be aware of what's happening.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

because you're only seeing through a lense that is controlled by capital, and they refuse to show the demonstrations. I went to one yesterday, there were thousands of us and we took to the streets to demand trans rights. I won't speak to the efficacy of the protests, but they are happening. News of them is just being suppressed.

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

There have been tons of protests and there have been some pretty widespread ones outside of Tesla this weekend. The media is just hardly covering it making them seem way smaller than they are

Here's a map of recent Tesla Takedown protests alone

https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown

Here's just a handful of photos from yesterday

Most people within the US aren't aware these protests are happening either. There are also broader nationwide protests planned on April 5th as part of the 50501 movement. This will be the 4th nationwide 50501 protest

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Thanks for saying the name of the org. Much easier to join up that way.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If 2020 taught us anything at all, it was that despite whatever horrors, challenges, and/or desperate situations, we are still expected to show up for work on time. Don’t want to lose insurance, and most people are like a paycheck or two away from being unhoused, or at least seriously close that it would be near impossible to catch back up. They’ve made it impossible to do anything except show up for work on time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

As more people are laid off, "I gotta go to work" becomes less compelling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We know. But the point is no one is coming to save you, and things aren't going to get better on their own.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

It's a perfect example of how the media are complicit in the rise of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think initially people felt broken by the election. The fact that so many of our people voted for him seemed crazy and crushing.

For me and people I know that fog is starting to lift and neighbors are getting organized, but it's still in small pockets. There is no consensus leadership but there are actually lots of protests going on, like at the Tesla dealership. Interestingly, I learned that was happening from my dental hygienist while she was cleaning my teeth, not from any media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

The fact that so many people continue to support him is sickening. They live in a fantasy that the world is 1700 and we don't need a federal gov or any social systems. They love having a big military to bully the world though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There were well over 1000 people at the protest I was at on Saturday...

Next Saturday (April 5) is supposed to be a huge day of protest across the country, notably with a very large demonstration planned for the National Mall in DC. I plan to be at that one.

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[–] [email protected] 125 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There are. It's just the US is a large car-centric country which makes travel difficult and the ruling party controls almost all of the media and thus there is a media blackout on protests.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This right here is the main reason why Trump might succeed... The media has been beaten into submission and refuses to report the actual events that are occurring which make Trump look bad.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago

The media hasn't been beaten into submission, it's owned by MAGA billionaires. There are plenty of independent media news sources reporting facts, but they don't have the same reach.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Was there anything on the scale of the 2017 women's march? I'm sure your arguments are true to some extent, but I am surprised and concerned that I haven't seen anything in similar scale to 2017's protests, despite the situation being so much worse this time. Back then they managed to mobilize over 200,000 people despite being car-centric.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Really impossible to say because, to reiterate the point the post you're replying to made, the media is not covering protests like it was in 2017. There have been multiple protests in all 50 states, some very large, but the word just isn't getting out about them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Foreign media would report on it though, wouldn't it? There are many European reporters in the US. And there should be plenty of videos, pictures etc showing the scale. I haven't seen anything comparable to pictures of the women's march personally. I've seen pictures of protests but they seem, comparatively, quite small.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, and in 2020 we elected a democrat and gave democrats a majority. Instead of codifying Roe, they protected the filibuster.

We saw how much good the women's march didn't do because one party wants women dead from sepsis, and the other doesn't give a shit.

Why protest when NOT EVEN THE GOOD PARTY LISTENS?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah the democrats have been a disappointment. I'd kinda see that as a reason to protest all the harder though. Using more disruptive measures like general strikes as well. Make them listen. Protest movements have overthrown tyrannical regimes before. Gets harder the more they've consolidated their power though.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are many protests, more than there were in 2017, but they are mostly smaller in attendance. The difference is the media coverage. And you are right, there hasn't been a single event like the Women's March that has broken through to international coverage.

https://wagingnonviolence.org/2025/03/resistance-alive-well-us/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Its making the news alright, traditional news won't stfu about Tesla vandalism.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There needs to be a US wide worker’s strike. ATC workers, military, everything. The police won’t be on strike but they have already demonstrated that they are fascists, but everybody else should be striking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Search for "general strike 2028". It's in the works already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Bit late aint it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you know they omitted the first sentence from that poem which has a prominent place on the wall of the US holocaust museum?
Americans are so scared of the C-word.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not surprised at all.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

As others are pointing out, there are mass protests going on—but I think there’s more to it than that.

The general message of all protests is “listen to us or else”. In the US for the last fifty years, “or else” has been understood to mean “or else you’ll lose the next election”—but it’s becoming clear that this threat has no leverage with Trump, either because he’s confident he can manipulate elections (through whatever means) or because he intends to accomplish his goals in his current term and doesn’t care what happens after that.

So protests need to find some other goal and some other message. Right now they’re looking for other weak points (e.g., Tesla dealerships), but once it’s clear they’ve got a strategy Trump is actually afraid of, the numbers will grow.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So protests need to find some other goal and some other message.

Let's-a go!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

wdym? Every single week there's protests. Are you part of an org? If you're part of an org maybe you'll hear about them more?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm very glad that they're so many protests. I live in Europe and searched the news for protests in the USA but didn't found information about it, except the protests against Tesla dealerships.

Keep fighting!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There are also Tesla protests growing in Europe (and Canada, and more)! Musk's influence threatens more than just the US, so we must all step up. The Tesla Takedown protest movement started in the US, but it's now becoming international. Here's a map of the latest ones in Europe

Here's the site with that info along with a guide on how to plan one around you if you don't see one

https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

I've seen three at my state's Capital building. All three got about 5 seconds of local media coverage and zero national media coverage.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Everyone should be protesting who can protest in relative safety. You'll probably wish you knew the people you met at the protests when we can't legally protest any longer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Why would they show you the who and where to congregate to fight? Streisand effect real

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Any place to find good protests near me? I wanna join one for fun

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

A lack of organization. There's no one central voice organizing large scale protests, so you get hundreds or thousands of smaller protests that don't attract media attention.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Class solidarity is hard to archive. It's funny seeing people get mad at my tiny little projects when the government is out there ruining people's lives

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