Political Memes

If the growth goes away, people have to wonder what they are getting in exchange, in any system, not just capitalism. For example, this is the same expectation people have from the Communist Party in China. Most people will agree that givint up their freedoms was worth the huge improvement in quality of life.

I would wager that some American demographics are a lot more selfish than others... I digress, because it doesn't change two facts:

Media has long manufactured consent (even lying in doing so 🤯, see: Iraq) for various attrocities committed by the united states government, regardless of popular support.

And second, the gutting of social security by bypassing budget approvals (infraction of sep. of powers) and kidnapping of students based on ideology and without due process (just authortarianism) are part of the same issue currently afflicting the US. If for some reason individuals drive a cudgel between these issues, they're more than either ignorant to or complicit with the issue they whatabout over.

But on that, given your anecdote is taken from a livestream chat, you may be underestimating just how much astroturfing takes place. We've known part of the playbook is to completely overwhelm our media intake, desaturating perceived potency of headlines and happenings. I would go as far to take wedging issues like that to be another tactic... as we've seen that strategy successfully work to drive flimsy democrats to 180 on LGBT rights.

If you assume the worst of the people you will need to work with, you won't get to influence them enough to understand the nature of the issue at hand

Yeah, why don't we just let the electoral college choose our next president again next time? I'm sure they'll pick the best kin...president possible. I love how democracy works! We suffer so a hand full of people can make the right decision. Sometimes the hard decision. Like say we were brown and the decision was to fall or not to fall into an abyss. The electoral college would quickly see the situation and rescue us. Thanks to the electoral college the potholes get quickly filled and my kid's school is not closing soon.

My knowledge is more related to the meat side of things than the egg side honestly, but here’s a citation: 70 percent of chicken farmers with no other job live below the poverty line. That’s not people who work on a chicken farm (although they’re certainly not paid well either), that’s the people who own it.

These farms may technically be ‘small scale’ in that they aren’t owned by a giant corporation, but they often contain multiple times as many chickens as their European counterparts, in more crowded conditions, which is part of why disease spreads so fast.

For meat, the reason the farmers are in this mess is because separate companies buy and process the chicken, and they won’t buy from you if you don’t follow their arbitrary and frequently changing guidelines. They also don’t pay a given amount per pound, they pay you depending on the yields other chicken farmers got on their farms. And the farmers don’t have another place to sell their chickens, it’s these companies or nothing, as 20 companies control basically the entire US market.

So what happens to them? Just a slightly more humane death before they reach a week old?

Chickens are just fragile anyway even free range. Go ahead and try to raise your own and tally up how many die between sexing to get female chicks and just environmental deaths. Of note, I'm no vegan, but the idea that egg eating is somehow morally superior to meat eating is kind of silly to me. Like milk, the things you do to create the conditions to collect plenty of it ain't without harm and death.

It'd frankly be pretty wasteful to raise eggs or milk without occasionally eating whatever you cull. See India's starving abandoned urban cattle eating trash for a practical example of that.

Edit; OP deleted their account citing me as a major reason when I never even replied to them, lol. Some folks get defensive about the damnedest things.