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“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”

Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 159 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Without the obviously planted evidence, all they have is a video that doesn't show his face. If i was on the jury, that's enough reasonable doubt for me.

[–] nukeforyou@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the eyebrows arent even close to similar

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the Brow doesn't fit, we shall acquit.

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[–] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 124 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wanted to say Luigi without getting banned

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can post images, too! Ain't that neat?

[–] Boxscape@lemmy.sdf.org 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my favorite fact about him. He's been out here trying to make our lives better for YEARS as an unsung hero.*

*If you play Civ.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Best damn animation ever! All I can hear in my mind is the theme from James Bond's Man with the golden gun.

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[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Luigi is an innocent patsy. The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

remember that TIP, they baited the people to ID him.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They baited people to find anyone that might look like the shooter.

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[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You be careful posting that stuff! Reddit will ban you like they did me! Edit: See they removed your post!

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, that sketch makes the youthful and confident looking Luigi look more like a mob underling from a GTA game. Yikes

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Courtroom sketches always butcher people's appearances.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago

This could go in the cat meme or the throw chair meme

[–] th3squ3akywh33l@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“ _Brazen killing” I sure do love to see mainstream news articles.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It was carried out without shame so brazen is sn appropriate adjective.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there any other kind of killing? I mean murders are all described as cowardly and brutal. But is there such a thing as a gentle or brave murder?

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[–] HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The court artist made Luigi look like a grumpy Liberace. Wtf?!

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Merit a hearing = 0 chance, but it shows the public and DA that this is going to be a fight, and to appeals.

It concerns me that we haven't had more of this, he should be running a ferociously aggressive defense, the only reasons he wouldn't are:

  1. Very confident that he can't be convicted as a matter of law. I suspect convicting him by jury would be hard, but definitely possible. The federal charges are more concerning, the US As have more influence over juries often.

  2. They know this is bad and are waiting to knock out a few key pieces of evidence in a long-shot hail-Mary because it's their only chance, and otherwise they want room to make a deal.

I hope it's not the latter.

Personally I suspect they're confident in a hung jury on the state charges but know they're going down hard on the federal ones, and are trying to spin it as federal overreach, which won't work but it's an argument.

10 years from.now if the pendulum swings back he can appeal and get out that way.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit tries to suppress all discussions related to Luigi, but remember, we have a dedicated community for him: !luigimangione@lemmy.world

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Guy is going to jail, the grave, or both. Guilty or not the state is not letting a little thing like police evidence tampering or innocence get in the way of him paying for the consequences being brought home to that CEO. Truth was publicly spoken to power, and someone has to pay for that in the states eyes.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for him, matching the guy they're looking for usually counts as reasonable suspicion for a search. I doubt the judge will agree with the defense here.

Also, remember that they've been tight-lipped about how they got the tip in the first place. They never said it was an employee. It could have been a nearby law enforcement officer, or it could have been some surveillance system.

[–] tischbier@feddit.org 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You should read the motion. The motion to suppress isn’t based mistaken identity or identity. The Motion is based around how officers detained/seized the Defendant and items unlawfully. Officers did not give the Defendant the ability to leave (seizure) which means their actions rise to an “investigative detention.” This is a violation of the 4th Amendment and the 14th amendment.

The Officers detained the Defendant to Interrogate him and because he was not free to leave, the should have Mirandized him at that point. The Officers failed to Mirandize the Defendant during a custodial interrogation which is a violation of the 5th Amendment.

While I don’t think it was in the PA Defense filing: at one of the hearings there was questions about the chain of custody of the backpack. This could also lead to suppression of evidence (as I believe the gun wasn’t found until after the police took the bag to the station—but I can’t find the source that mentioned this fact now so I’m not sure if this specific facts is accurate anymore).

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