Use Signal
this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2025
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I already do but it's nice to have an easy, default way to talk to everyone
Except for those on degoogled android.
I use GraphineOS, im pretty sure I wont get this
I recently flashed grapheneos because I didn't like the way Google does things. But, my work requires me to be able to send messages to iPhone users. Ever since, I've been having issues receiving their texts. I can send them individually; but for the group chats, I'm not getting any of them. I really hate the idea of going back to a stock ROM, but I needs to get paid. Does eos support the new changes?
Honestly I would try to convince them to use Signal
I should hope signal adds sms support back with this.
Logically that makes sense, as they removed SMS support due to some people not realising that using SMS was not secure/encrypted.
Why would it make sense? Currently on Android, RCS isn't a system level thing like SMS is. So Signal won't easily be able to pull it in. Unless they implement their own implementation of RCS and the Universal Profile.
Didn't say it would be easy, just that it would make sense if they wanted to add it back in if it supported encryption
MLS is cool because ANY messenger can implement it and talk to another messenger. If implemented, Signal users could have an EE2E conversation with WhatsApp, or Matrix users could have EE2E conversations with RCS users.
The original creator of MLS has a messenger called Wire.
MLS is designed to support that use case, but the spec to actually intercommunicate between services is still being developed by the MIMI group. MIMI is the logical but entirely optional extension of MLS.
I don't think carriers will want random chat apps to send messages for free to their infrastructure for spam prevention alone. Companies like Element and Wire are probably going all in on this, but Signal doesn't even want you to use clients they didn't compile, let alone federate between services.
I believe WhatsApp has chosen to license its API in a documented fashion rather than implement a cross platform messaging protocol after they were forced to open up by the DMA. That said, there are a bunch of Facebook emails in the MIMI protocol discussions, so at least one of their messengers may still end up implementing MIMI when it's finally finished.
It would be so awesome to have on app to message any platform without any fanfare.
That would overall be bad for privacy since you will have major weak links. Better to just move everybody to Signal.
What weak link?
Any messager that isn't private like WhatsApp.
Also the cryptography is dubious at best since you are focusing on compatibility over privacy or even security.
If you want something decentralized look into Simplex Chat.
What is it about the MLS encryption that is dubious?
I'm not gonna believe any of it. It's probably not just backdored, it probably has its central server at the FBI. Google/Apple/Microsoft have zero respect for your privacy.
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Yeah, gimmy Linux instead!
It is Linux, but with a bunch of non-free software on top of it.
This is an update to the standard, right? No actual software support, so we still donβt have it. Is that correct?
Yeah, that is correct
Really wish they'd push the update to all Android OS's sooner than later