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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 66 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They’re voting to select a new party leader; while that may result in them becoming the new PM, it’s not the same thing.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The new leader will replace Trudeau as PM; he said he'd step down as PM once the leader is elected. It's just that the same day this happens, parliament will come back in session and almost certainly bring this new government down in a vote of non-confidence. The new leader will stay PM over the course of the campaign period.

Edit: The new government being voted down isn't as much of a certainty. The NDP have walked back their promise to do so; not sure about the Bloc. Either one could prop up the Liberals.

[–] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

...and if Carney wins, he'll be PM but not an MP. The last time the PM was not a MP, it was John Turner. That was after Justin's father Pierre resigned. History is repeating.

The LPC lost badly under Turner in the next election - Cross your fingers.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

The polls have clearly shown that Carney as the perceived front runner is crushing the conservatives lead

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if they'll force a general election right away, but it would be wise for Carney to seek a mandate.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He doesn’t have a seat so I think an election will be called asap so he can get a seat.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

is a seat a requirement to be PM?

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

No not a requirement, he can be PM without a seat - but it’s very unusual. There will be a general election called soon. He’ll get a seat.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The new PM will call an election before giving any party the chance to vote them down.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't see what they would gain by doing that. The slim chance of staying in government until the fall is super valuable to the Liberals, giving the ability to get the new leader's name out there and to prove that they can handle Trump.

Edit: Yesterday the NDP said that they're no longer committing to bring down the government so I feel like the Liberals have more of a reason not to drop the writ. That being said, Carney said he'd be willing to call an election once he's sworn in. So we'll see

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cause if they don’t the rhetoric from the CPC will be unending. My guess is an election will be called in the next week before March 24. Plus Carney needs a seat in parliament.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

@remindme@mstdn.social 1 week

[–] remindme@mstdn.social 1 points 11 months ago

@60d Ok, I will remind you on Sunday Mar 16, 2025 at 3:40 AM UTC.

[–] remindme@mstdn.social 1 points 11 months ago

@60d Here is your reminder!

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

I would have voted to replace Trudeau as PM, you're right the title is very misleading.

Trudeau resigned, there was no vote to replace him, there was a vote for who would replace him.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Who did y'all vote for? I voted Carney because he's the only one I trust to stand up to Krasnov.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Carney

Freeland

Gould

Baylis

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would have ranked Freeland higher too, except Krasnov already hates her, so I don't think she could turn this situationship around.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

She has experience dealing with Trump successfully. She would probably be the best choice in that regard IMHO. She also has experience dealing with Russia. Putin and Trump are both afraid of her. She is also smart as hell.

Unfortunately, she does not have a good rep country wide, and too much baggage with the Trudeau government. And sadly, there is a large portion of people in Canada that could not vote for a woman, which is disgusting in this day and age. I think she would make a great leader, but feel she would have zero chance of winning a federal election.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

And sadly, there is a large portion of people in Canada that could not vote for a woman

Very sad. I agree. If I thought all we needed was to piss off Krasnov/Putin, I would have ranked her at the top. But we do have to consider keeping Lil pp out of the PM Chair also.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Her Ukraine first BS disqualifies her. That "experience" was a disgrace.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Carney, Baylis, Gould, Freeland for me.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
  1. Carney
  2. Gould
  3. Baylis

Didn't rank Freeland because I really dislike her

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I ranked em the same, but put Freeland in 4. I didn't know you could leave people off the ballot and still have your vote counted!

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the instructions said you could rank as many or as few as you like. I'm not sure what the effect is of not ranking someone vs ranking them 4th, aside from their internal statistics

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's amazing what you learn when you actually read the instructions, lol!

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Honestly just another reason that ranked choice isn't the best version of electoral reform :P

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t register to vote before IT was too late but I would have voted for Carney too

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully this is done in one round so we can get down to the business of actually doing something.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope so! I’m normally an NDP voter but I really feel Carney is who should be in charge for all of this

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

This is how I feel (and I don't really like Singh anyway). Gould is probably my favourite candidate of the Liberals, but I think Carney is what we need to get us through tough times, so I ranked Carney first.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now, everyone write him to follow through on the Liberals past promises of electoral reform!

He's got an election coming soon any way you slice it. Highlight a move to proportional representation or mixed member proportional so we can have a government which is more engaging and representational!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Now, everyone write him to follow through on the Liberals past promises of electoral reform!

Agreed, he needs to face much more pressure than Justin Trudeau ever did on the issue. He needs to follow through on what the majority of what the past citizen’s assemblies have recommended and pass it through parliament through multi-party support when he gets elected.

Highlight a move to proportional representation or mixed member proportional

Proportional representation is a family of electoral systems that the single transferable vote (STV), mixed member proportional (MMP) and party lists fall under.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Thanks for expanding on my comment, Sunshine!