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[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Factory reset doesn't delete persistent app data enabled by app developer [paraphrased]

What about Erase All Content and Settings? You seriously can't fully erase a second-hand phone you bought?! That's insane

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's even worse is that Apple is not fully erasing the phones that they refurbish.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

They are fully erasing it. But it's still the same iPhone. With a device ID that is banned.

[–] whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you're a developer that's also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it's the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.

I don’t think I care about not being able to erase the device ID. It seems useful to have this, actually, for back-tracing if need be.

Snapchat probs shouldn’t use the DeviceCheck services improperly. But hey, that’s just like my opinion, man.

More, not very interesting, info on DeviceCheck services here: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicecheck

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

I can’t see what was posted above anymore, but the DeviceCheck API lets app developers store 2 binary digits (that means 4 different states: 00, 01, 10 or 11) per device on Apple’s servers. So, no, these don’t get erased during a Factory Reset as they’re stored on Apple’s servers. But your phone will.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

APPLE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AND DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What does AMD has to do with your privacy.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you're a developer that's also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it's the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.

Sounds reasonable…

But then, why would you use it?

For example, you might use this data to identify devices that have already taken advantage of a promotional offer that you provide, or to flag a device that you’ve determined to be fraudulent.

Oh, ok. Wait, what? But…

[–] Giooschi@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Luckily Apple strictly controls the App Store and will never allow apps to abuse this, right? Right?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah? That makes perfect sense, don’t use it beyond a basic device verification, for example verifying if the device has already been used in a promo or stolen.

Those are instances where you need to check the device itself not the user.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So getting my iPhone repaired can ban me from a promo that I haven't used yet? How does that make sense.

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

Good. Snapchat is and always has been such a garbage and useless app.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

One more great reason not to use Apple phones.

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe a reason not to use Snapchat?

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Both is good

[–] BarrierWithAshes@fedia.io 7 points 2 years ago

Snapchat or iPhones? How about I take none?

[–] raker@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago
[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gosh that's sucks people on iPhone using Snapchat.

Says a guy on an android that doesn't even know what Snapchat does.

You're not missing anything.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The equivalent API on Android gets a new id when the phone is resetted.

Weird that Apple doesn't do that on refurbished phones

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Like social media for even bigger losers

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Why would apple not wipe the device completely on repair or when activated?

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago