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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26024422

Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 137 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

GOOD.

Pelosi has been in congress for 36 years. To put this in perspective, that's longer than I've been voting. Time to retire.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 years ago (8 children)

To put it further in perspective, Nancy Pelosi isn't a boomer. She's silent generation.

[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She seems pretty silent on her inside trading.

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[–] takeda@lemm.ee 100 points 2 years ago (32 children)

No matter, your view on her, it really is time to retire, she is 84.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was time to retire 20 years past. It’s time to give back all the money she stole from her communities with all the insider trading bullshit.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 82 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC’s former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.

Fuck yes they do!

[–] Toto@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The message that could be sent by a champagne to kick NP out could start a left wing movement.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 2 years ago (12 children)

“I’ve got some news: I’ve decided to run against Nancy Pelosi to represent San Francisco in Congress. I know some of you might be surprised that Speaker Emeritus Pelosi is running again, but she is—for her 21st term!” Chakrabarti’s post read.

I fucking hate boomers in political office. They refuse to let go of the reins. They want to hold on until death. Selfish.

I saw a video last year asking people in the UK about USA politics and someone commented how old our leaders are.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think she is too old to be a boomer, that generation was 1946 to 1964. She was born 1940

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

Yeah, she's Silent Generation, same as Biden.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

This strengthens the point being made though

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why the fuck is this ghoul still running in the first place? Please primary her ass CA.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

You think too much of CA. CA is INCREDIBLY liberal, so much of CA loves her and worships the memory of Dianne Feinstein.

[–] InvictusUmbra1824@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Trump got 38% of California to vote for him last year. We are nowhere close to “incredibly liberal”. Also I hate Pelosi.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Undereducated people who can't stand the cognitive dissonance of the liberal control of CA, paying lip service to issues that actually affect the working class while enriching the elites, restricting freedom and protecting the stability of the status quo above all.

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 51 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I don't have much hope in the voters. Last time a great challenger came along, Shahid Buttar in 2020, they still elected the geriatric choice. The DNC and Dem voters are the fucking worst. I mean, as long as you pretend the racist, fascist, ignorant, magats on the other side of the aisle don't exist.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago

You would think that the Democrat's consistent record of utter failure would count for something, but I think it has the opposite effect. The worse things get, the more insecure people feel. Insecurity makes voters risk-averse. Republicans capitalize on that with calls for a return to an American that never really existed. Democrats capitalize on it by making Democratic voters scared of new leadership.

I try to explain it with AIDS as an example. AIDS is a horrible disease, but it doesn't kill you. It just sets you up to die from another opportunistic infection like pneumonia. The fascists are pneumonia, and the neoliberals are AIDS. It's the fascism that kills you, but it's the neoliberalism that was the underlying cause that should have been dealt with.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Shahid Buttar

This dude fucking sucked. Like I'm glad pelosi got challenged, but he wasn't the guy. I'm much more excited about Chakrabarti. Though that is mostly association with AoC and tabula rasa projection.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 50 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Term and age limits will be needed if the Constitution is improved, alongside ditching first-past-the-post voting. A great deal of America's rot comes from the stagnation caused by career politicians who simply exist to occupy a seat.

Sure, we might lose 'wise' leaders, but it has become pretty damn clear that archaic politicians are the plugged toilets of Democracy. All they do is cause a mess if not promptly handled. The Geronocrats must go.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

It comes from citizens united as well. We are a country whose government runs on bribe money and little else.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Fuck yes, let's go with it!

  • Politician age range 30-50
  • Background check
  • Minimum Education Requirements
  • Understands science (including biology) and technology thoroughly at minimum high school level
  • 200 hours of community service working with the poor
  • 200 hours of community service working with the elderly
  • 200 hours of community service working with immigrants
  • Debt, Funding and Corporate Alliance check
  • Blocked from stock market trades along with immediate family
  • No bribes
  • No Lobbying
  • No ex C-STAFF for major companies.
  • Paid enough to be single yacht and a summer home kind of rich.

What else we need in here or what have I gone wrong on?

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[–] TomMasz@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Democrats need a vision, period.

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Vision? How about we start with a pulse?

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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surprising New Primary Challenger

That's not that surprising. I was hoping it was like a golden retriever or something.

[–] therizzo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Natural progression of the Air Bud series.

[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nothing in the Constitution says a dog can't be speaker of the house!

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago

Kick her the fuck out. Kick all the useless democrats out. Fuck all of them. They lost. They're done. Go the fuck away.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

SF is incredibly liberal, I could absolutely see Nancy losing and finally being forced to retire. Just gotta get people out to vote during the Primary.

Pelosi was elected when she was 41-42. Saikat Chakrabarti is 39, so only a couple years younger than when Pelosi was put into Congress. This is the perfect time for her to be forced to retire.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

SF is incredibly liberal

That's the problem: Liberal = Neoliberal ≠ Left

The rich people who control just about everything LOVE her because her corruption enriches them as it enriches her and her stock broker husband.

The population in general, though? Probably much more progressive than Pelosi and will hopefully be heard this time.

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[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All these fucking useless Democratic leaders are so selfish. You've failed and failed over and over again, miserably, yet you still insist on trying to lead? Do the right thing. Step down. Quit. It's truly disgusting how they've strangled their party and country with their incompetence.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

And let progressives who actually have plans to stop Trump win for once? Never!

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago

Good! Fuck that old hag

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good.

Much like the appeasers that enabled Hitler, history is going to look back on Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Jefferies, and other democrats who stood by and let all this happen on their watch without so much as a wimper.

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They do need a bolder vision.

The older vision is just MAGA-esque billionaire worshipping without the racism.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's not surprising. The left has been looking for someone capable of primarying her for years.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago

And for years she's always held onto her position because of name recognition and money from Super PACs. Ratfucking is a bipartisan tool.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Back when Pelosi was pushing the Affordable Care Act she came on KQED and railroaded the host, basically just ignored all the questions to deliver the party line. I was bruh this is your home base and acted like it was hostile territory.

Pelosi has been a huge fundraiser and leader for the Democrats, but might as well live on planet Mars when it comes to understanding working class people, even in the Bay Area.

We need a leadership vacuum in the Democratic Party to even hope of changing anything significantly.

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[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fucking ghoul looks cel shaded.

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[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Hopefully a win can gain the democrats some momentum. Pelosi has been around way too long.

[–] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

She going to be another Feinstein?

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.

The exception that rule is someone like Ricky Henderson who just really openly and unselfishly liked playing baseball and played in the minor leagues for fun. He just kept playing baseball until he was 46: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hender003ric

I respect that. It was like weekend slow pitch for him.

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