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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 118 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He included police unions? He's fucked. Republican voters don't give a crap about teachers or firefighters, but he messed with the cops that they vehemently pretend to support.

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[–] randoot@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The ruling class forgets how the unions were the compromise to allow them to keep their heads attached to their bodies

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 years ago

I don't think they've forgotten. They're just confident that the culture war trap they've built will keep us busy fighting amongst ourselves.

[–] otto@sh.itjust.works 73 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

The police certainly had this coming, although I now feel very bad for firefighters and teachers in Utah

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

They're going to privatise all three.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that's striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who's going to be there to pick up the reigns?

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

That's the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.

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[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 57 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Isn't that functionally banning unions altogether? Collective bargaining is the whole purpose of a union...

Not familiar with American union laws, but that's protected federally is it not? (aside from the fact that this administration isn't 'protecting' anything, let alone unions)

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given the current political climate nothing is illegal.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If we can't bargain legally I suppose we just need to remind them why they gave us a legal option for union organization in the first place.

Before unions, it was the style at the time to go to the boss and ask for a raise by saying “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”

Just a reminder 🥰

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago
[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I feel like people forgot that this was the compromise.

If they'd like us to go back to dragging the boss out of his home in the middle of the night and beating him to death in front of his family I'm cool with that.

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago

get luigi a 1up

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I keep thinking of the scene in Far and Away where they torch the manor house.

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 51 points 2 years ago

Unions, collective bargaining and striking were illegal, to begin with. People actually skipped work and meals to strike, form unions, and radically protest to give us these things. Before pto, unemployment insurance, and social safety nets existed.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 42 points 2 years ago

They should strike anyways.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 36 points 2 years ago

Wow…this is gonna make America so great

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh, wow.

That went after the cops, too.

That was really fucking stupid of them, you reward your foot soldiers just well enough to make them trust the system enough to defend it with their lives against their own class.

You let the cop "union" thrive and they'll kick every teacher to death on their overtime pay with gusto.

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[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Banning police unions is a no brainer.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Banning police unions is a no brainer.

they're downright fucking evil, a hideous example of what a union should be doing. they protect the worst of the worst and keep the city and force paying for their bullshit. and they show no solidarity to other unions.

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

General strike from teachers, firefighters and police it is, then.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Don't count on cops for solidarity, even with something this blatant.

[–] Norgoroth@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Union prevent heads in sticks, time for heads on sticks

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't worry the Federal government will step .... Oh they just crippled the agency that prevents this. How convenient.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/15/business/nlrb-trump-musk-workers/index.html

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Time for these cretins to get a history lesson first hand on why there are labor laws in this country. Why there is a forty hour work week. Why there is collective bargaining. Why its keeping them(the management) alive.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

My only surprise is they didn’t add nurses and doctors after that show of force went down, state wide, in Oregon this year.

[–] satans_methpipe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's now how this works. Time to beat the Governor to death.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I love picturing this being said matter of factly from a husband to a spouse over morning coffee.

"Oh no, well that's now how this works at all... Time to beat the Governor to death, dear. Well, off I go for the day, see you at dinner"

[–] JamieSTL@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly surprised by cops being included in this. Wonder if that will bring major backlash in such a conservative state.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Narrator: it won't. They are too far gone with the indoctrination. They'll lament and get back in line, to cheer for the next one who got fucked that isn't them

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