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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Fucking strike anyway. What are they gonna do?

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The postal service is unable to legally strike. They struck in the 70s (?) illegally and got tons of concessions and no one went to prison for it. Seems like teachers could do something similar. We wouldn’t miss cops and, unfortunately, firefighters also wouldn’t be missed (we still love them, unlike cops).

[–] CanadaResists@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m super pro union but your arguments are sloppy.

In 1981 Reagan fired and banned for life over 11,000 striking Air Traffic controllers. People sadly haven’t forgotten.

Without cops, what does a person assaulted or burgled do? How are the 20K+ murders a year investigated? Firefighters? They respond primarily to medical emergency. And about a million fire incidents a year.

The world stops without teachers working. Many people rely on them for childcare so that they can go to work. Air traffic controllers are very important. But many orders of magnitude less important for our economy than teachers.

We can discuss abolition of cops some other time, but we aren’t going to see eye to eye on this. They and firefighters are not on the critical path of daily capitalism like teachers though.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 5 points 2 years ago

Cops rarely, if ever stop, or investigate crimes. Cops have single digit clearance rates for homicides.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally fire them all like Reagan did to the Air Traffic Controllers.

[–] DerArzt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And then what? If you fire all a singular group listed above that's striking (nurses, teachers, POLICE) who's going to be there to pick up the reigns?

[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

That's the point, you bring it to a screeching halt and they then need to come to the table. But without the social safety nets other developed countries have, people here are reluctant to push back hard. There will eventually be a tipping point in my view in the future.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

who’s going to be there to pick up the reigns?

Exactly. Read Project 2025.

[–] CanadaResists@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree with your sentiment but they know what will happen sadly. Back in 1981, Reagan fired all 11,353 air traffic controllers who were “illegally” striking. He also banned them for life from working for the Fed Govt.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Who did he replace them with? Were all the planes just grounded for a year while they looked for and trained new hires?