That's deffo a PTB
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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They're on a streak
Seems the community is heading to onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone instead, looks a lot more active
Not relevant... On 196.
Or course - don't you know that you are landed gentry, subject to the whims of a king!? 🤪
From what I can gather from what little they want to share it's very clear to me that they wanted to move to world to attract a larger audience and also so certain transphobic users could participate again. They also repeatedly claim that the community is the moderators rather than the users, which just makes it clear how out of touch they are.
Edit: Also, it's super obvious the reason they don't want to give over the old community is so people are "forced" to move to their new world community. They only care about number go up.
Well, technically they aren't wrong.
Anyway, people are really enjoying the new 196 community. By which I mean the !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone community that is growing by leaps and bounds every hour. In the last 3-4 hours there have been 80 posts, 900 users, 360 subscribers... by comparison, in !196@lemmy.world I see just 4 posts, one of which is the new set of regulations threatening people to be banned even before they read any existing posts (bc it's pinned above them I mean).
There is really no comparison here.
Literally telling on herself that she's inactive for weeks to months at a time. But yeah, definitely Ada's fault for trying to actually moderate the largest comm on the instance. I think both sides here are at fault though, as I've seen (and been disappointed by) the way Ada moderates the matrix space she runs.
Tbf, Moss is only one mod among many (I count 10 in the sidebar) - the more damning portion is how it seems NONE of the mods were checking the modlog reports and resolving them.
Also, I don't know the history of the 196@lemmy.world community but from what some comments said, at some point the community moved to lemmy.blahaj.zone and then had no mods, thus belonging entirely to Ada as the "owner"? And Ada,.as she said, has just been doing her thing since before 196 existed even on Reddit. It's not her fault for simply living her authentic life - and rather sounds like the fault of whoever wanted to move the community from lemmy.world to Blåhaj (before abandoning it entirely into Ada's hands to clean up the mess left behind).
This entire situation seems so fucked up from every side. The mods have responsibilities to both the admin as well as the users of the community. They ignored major parts to both of those, tried to move, failed, and now continue to step ever deeper into it with the more they reveal about their "internal voting" and such the worse that the community feels about it all.
It's good to have choices though: if the new mods want to create a different space on Lemmy.World, that's awesome? But they absolutely screwed up the communication about that.:-P
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To be fair that post was in the old 196 as well. It's a rules explanation thingy.
Yeah but the new one here by Moss has an oldest comment of 1 day ago, I guess they made that before the announcement 14 hours ago. So it seems to have replaced the old one.
But yeah you get me: it's not a "real" post about "rules" - except it is, but it is not a "really real" post about "Rules", you feel me? :-P
Because the mod they share locked it to force a move to the lemmy.world one: https://kbin.melroy.org/m/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone/t/676055/WE-ARE-MOVING-TO-LEMMY-WORLD
But this is a prime example that mods are not their community, which is why I believe users should be able to choose their preferred or alternate moderators when participating in a community.
I beg to differ: that is not the prime example that mods are not their community, this is: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20968775 -> the new !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone that somebody requested and Ada already allowed and gave the shortcut name 196 to already has 80 posts, 900 users and 360 subscribers despite being ~3 hours old and most people haven't even heard the drama yet but this has already solved it!:-P
Yeah, that's a power trip, strange to be posturing as anti-authoritarian but then unilaterally making decisions like that.
Not Relevant, I can't believe it. How is that proper Moderation? That PTB didn't realize that the community they was the self-proclaimed head-honcho would dislike this shit move. By locking the original community they cemented their position as shittiest mod of all time.
I just don't get why they don't unlock it.
how can they still be in power when the original exist. That's my guess why they don't want to unlock it.
That's just pure power tripping.
!android@lemdro.id tried that back in the days locking !android@lemmy.world to channel all users to their community.
Needless to say, the uproar was huge.
Bc Ada does not want to be accused of being a PTB. However, if someone were to wait a couple of weeks, then make a poll asking the members of the community what they wanted, then perhaps she would acquiesce to the owners' (note the plural, I mean the community MEMBERS) desires?
Based on their writing style in their recent long post about the change, they're immature children at best. 6? People wrote it together and it's a disjointed mess.
This was indeed wrong, I restored the post and asked the mod who removed it for an explanation
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Well, I can now say that I've been around to witness my first big users versus moderators versus admins battle royale on Lemmy. And within my first week here! It's been fairly entertaining and also feels like I should have an achievement badge on my profile now. Just need the next achievement of being a participant in one of these matches.
Honestly Ada is hilariously minimally involved, mods being like "we don't like the admin enforcing the instance rules so we're gonna make everyone move to .world!" And then users replying "lmao fuck off we like it here and you can't make us go anywhere"
Yeah that's been one of the funniest parts to watch. It's been moderators versus admins but not users versus admins. Personally I think it's a pretty simple concept that the instance rules come first, then the community rules. I'm not surprised by anything I'm seeing or hearing on the admin side because I think it's pretty clear what to expect when you enter the place and read the sidebar.
I honestly think Ada does the job amazingly, whenever someone starts stirring drama about something she's done I look at what they're talking about and it's something that, while I might not have done that action personally I'd I were in the same spot, I can absolutely understand why she did it and am fine with it.
I'm too new here to be making these kinds of assumptions but whenever I see someone complaining about Ada and team, I'm thinking these might be 'free speech' people that want the right to enter every club without paying the admission, adhering to the dress code and full reign to insult the regulars, staff and owner. Real life doesn't work that way so why should social media?
So far I'm more than happy and impressed with the Blåhaj instance. And even if I move to another instance or mbin or something, I'm still happy to respect the Blåhaj way when I'm in that house.
This federation thing gives me a different outlook on this kind of thing compared to Reddit. When you say "admin" here, you're not talking about some rich incel, you're talking about people putting their time and effort into providing spaces for people to gather and form communities. Probably for little reward.
This federation thing gives me a different outlook on this kind of thing compared to Reddit. When you say “admin” here, you’re not talking about some rich incel, you’re talking about people putting their time and effort into providing spaces for people to gather and form communities. Probably for little reward.
Definitely. Special shout out to admins like @Demigodrick@lemmy.zip, @Shadow@lemmy.ca, @jgrim@discuss.online @milan@discuss.tchncs.de ,@Illecors@lemmy.cafe or @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz . Great people running great instances
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I have been doing calculus the entire day nonstop in preparation to fail my tomorrow's test and my brain is totally fried. I came back to see a completely new sub dominating the top and I can't parse what and why has happened. Can somebody please briefly explain using very small words?
Mods of !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone unilaterally decided to lock it and wanted them force everyone to move to !196@lemmy.world
Vast majority of the members were unhappy with the decision and started !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 hours ago. 1180 active users, 124 posts.
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Can someone give me a rundown of what happened? I don't understand and I would like some context, please.
Long-term disagreements between the mods of 196 and the admin of Blahaj led to the mods of 196, with the admin's permission, moving to .world instead and locking the previous community with a redirect. The mods of 196 did not consult the community before the move, and many of them feel miffed at this.
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