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[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Alternatively, we, in the EU could just... Stop using Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok or whatever being used to harvest our data?

[–] h_ramus@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hell, Whatsapp may be the worst of them all.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can Canada get on board with that too

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Can the U.S. also.., oh goddamnit

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know, can it?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Really, governments should make and moderate their own social media services, the basic concept is a great communication medium for everything from like reporting potholes to promoting blood donation drives to quickly sharing updates during emergency weather situations etc., the kinds of basic citizen service stuff governments should be doing, but when profit notices creep in we get all this data harvesting and Skinner-box algorithmic manipulation that ruins things

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate it how Facebook is a better source of public safety information than some government websites.

If we need to travel the snowy highways you can get better updates on the conditions than the official highways website.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can even navigate the garbage official websites. That's alwaysy issue, there is way too much crap and nothing is straightforward ever.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, too many times I have come across website pages telling me to visit "webpage name" if I'm looking to solve "issue that I need to solve" and then they don't even include the link to said webpage I have to search and find it myself.

[–] un_aristocrate@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

Where I live the government does all this already.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao, how would Trump ever do that?

If you want to sell your product/service in the EU, you comply with EU laws and if you don't comply you pay the fines. And if you continue to not comply your product/service will be banned and you will not be able to sell it legally anymore. And in case of a webservice like Facebook the site can get blocked real fast.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe he'll try to annex the whole EU instead of just Greenland

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have a few tinfoil hat theories. You know, the kinda shit you come up with trying to plan for the worst.

One of them is that all these villainous world superpowers are going to get together and basically redraw the world. Eg: US will say they won't defend S. Korea, Taiwan, or Ukraine if they can get Canada and Greenland, that kinda shit.

And there's nothing to stop them

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like fuck there's not going to be anything to stop them. All this "taking Canada" rhetoric is really making me fully understand the situation Ukraine is in. I always thought I'd find some way to dodge a draft, but if it came down to fighting to preserve my country's sovereignty, I'm taking all you Americans down with me

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Half of us would happily join you

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really hope so. The way it's been treated so far, as if it's just a funny joke that we might consider (Canada would turn the US blue forever!, etc), even by more left leaning news corps like CNN has really left a sour taste in my mouth.

In a recent CNN clip, they were talking about how because we just "threw out our PM", we might actually want to be American. Like, no, we're a sovereign country, do not joke about invading us you actual fucking nazis, Christ.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fwiw, CNN is owned by right wingers now. Most of our MSM is

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah fair enough, that explains it a bit then. It's incredible that we've gotten to the point where the alt right/Republicans are just casually joking about invading ~~countries~~ ALLIES

Quick edit: I guess it has been a very unifying thing for Canadians though. The whole situation has really brought together the left and the right here against the US (excluding Danielle Smith but she's insane)

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like literally what Nazi Germany and Stalnist USSR attempted to do leading up to Ww2, creating spheres of influence and preemptively dividing up territory. (Of course the Nazis also knew they were going to turn around and try and take the USSR too)

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Yep that's where the theory comes from. History is repeating itself perfectly

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

I'd say that's crazy and never going to happen, but looking at the past 10 years have taught me I have no idea what can happen and what can't.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

If these companies aren't subject to EU fines then I don't see why they should be allowed to operate in the EU

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is why the moderation is changing. Similar story with Trump, Apple, xitter, and Elon. Lots of corners to cut and money to be made if you kiss his boots.

JD Vance has suggested that American support for NATO should be predicated on the European Union not regulating Elon Musk and his X social media platform, formerly known as Twitter.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-elon-musk-x-twitter-donald-trump-b2614525.html

Trump vowed last month not to let the EU "take advantage of our companies," saying Apple CEO Tim Cook had called him to complain about an EU antitrust fine and back-tax order. There may soon be more to complain about, as Apple is set to get the EU’s first fine for not complying with digital competition rules, Bloomberg reported.

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-x-tech-social-media-politics-elections-eu/

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How exactly would Trump stop that? He doesn't even know.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tariffs.

Trump's answer to everything is tariffs - i.e. punishing Americans for buying products from countries he doesn't like.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Trump is destroying the US's ability to use soft power when the world needs it the most to stop imperialism from the likes of Russia and China.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

He will be using the US to empower imperialism all around. The CP* videos they took of him in Mozcow keep him on a tight leash from his soviet overlord.

*That's my take about them: The pissing as a kink is totally neglectable - the age of the pissers is his real problem, see also his daughter and Epstein and all that.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

Could someone tell him that Trump is not the president of the EU? Not our circus not our fascists.

Zuckerberg? I 'ardly know 'er!