The us is a barbaric place in many ways. I have been preaching about drug policy like this for forever. Is a mental health issue, not a criminal one.
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Don't be mean. I promise to do my best to judge that fairly.
I guess most people don't consider chronic pain.
Even the Dutch way of handling things isn't perfect though.
There are plenty of heroin addicted homeless who have to travel daily between shelter and those clinics. The problem is that they are on opposite sides of Amsterdam.
So they need to travel daily through the entire city without money to get their fix and be back to the shelter before evening. Most end up somewhere along the way to get an illegal dose instead.
Also the limit of 3 means a lot of full addicts still need to get the rest of their other fixes somewhere else.
But it is definitely better than most countries.
Similar in Switzerland and Zürich specifically. There used to be a horrible drug scene in Zürich (look up needle park), which was improved with similar techniques.
“But if we treat these people as human beings and not trash who am I supposed to demonise for all of society’s problems?” - My boomer parents
Themselves?
Nah, that'd require introspection.
Yeah, not likely then. The first act of revolution is contemplation.
Dutch person here, yeah that mentallity towards problems works non-surprisingly across the board. Demonizing a problem is a way to ensure you never solve it.
So called "social democracy" requires you to pay capitalists if you want to get addicted to heroin.
But think of all the money that the private prisons lose. Won't people think of the corporations that require crime to survive?
If we treated corporate crime even half as seriously as drug offenses, we'd have plenty of prisoners to satisfy those corporations' needs. It's win/win!
Same with giving condoms to teenagers. They're not going to fuck more because the have condoms. They're going to fuck the same amount but get pregnant less.
I had a zealot of a coworker saying teaching them sexual education and safe sex practices is giving them "permission" to engage in pre-marital sex. So instead, the increased risk of EVERYTHING sex related is better because apparently punishment?
I hear that's quite literally and openly what certain types of religious people believe.
That's because nothing that comes from a religion makes any sense. Don't try to understand it. It's not possible to understand delusions.
It does make sense when you consider their fundamental views and values
In their eyes, the only thing that truly matters is your relationship with god. They feel pre-marital sex is a sin harmful to that
Something like lifelong complications of STDs is nothing compared to that. Even if you died of AIDS as long as you're going to heaven, it's a better outcome than a long, happy life (to them)
I can understand their perspective when they truly believe it. The part I can't wrap my head around is genuinely believing the religion
I'm supposed to believe there is an all-powerful god that made everything, and he personally cares what I do with my penis? He made everything in the universe, told us about it because he wants us to worship him, but also doesn't want to prove he exists and will torment us for eternity for not believing in him. If true that would require unbelievable levels of narcissism
Religious people I know, think that STDs are a good thing to punish bad people who have non-marital sex, especially young people.
In America, people are extremely sex negative, and anything outside procreative sex should be punished, not just discouraged.
Sweden is doing the complete opposite. It's the one thing all of our political parties agree on; drugs are evil, people who do drugs are evil, and need to be put in jail (except if you work in parliament of course because politicians are good so their drug use is also good).
We also have some of the highest drug related deaths in Europe. That's to say, currently drugs are winning the war on drugs.
What the fuck is happening in Sweden? You guys used to be cool!
We had a good reputation, but I don't know if it's entirely warranted. We had many years of social democrats and strong worker rights, but I've not seen that in my lifetime. We've been pretty right wing for the past two decades, and the social democrats are sliding right.
During WWII, our neutrality meant cooperation with the Nazis. We were also all-in on eugenics, which harmed our native population. Last time a eugenics law was overturned was back in 2013, which was regarding forced sterilisation of trans people. The neo-nazi party Sweden Democrats voted against that, and they were the second biggest party last election. This past election I think they slid down to third.
I think it's similar to the whole mythos around the American dream and all the freedom Americans supposedly have. It's just mythical.
You may have heard of the widely unpopular Chat Control bill? It was initially put forward by a Swedish social democrat. They're heavily in favour of mass-surveillance.
Easy, all of our parents and grandparents were subject to government propaganda non-stop.
When we learned of propaganda in (American) Public Schools, it was always during the WWII lessons and Goebbels. Uncle Sam and Rosie the Riveter do not like talking about themselves or their family (nor do Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima, for that matter).
I do remember learning the term "yellow journalism" in high school, in reference to fake news in the 1920s...but the lesson, as I remember it, compared it to modern conspiracy rags (i.e. The Enquirer).
Brace yourselves, because modern "yellow journalsim" is now individually curated based upon your purchases/browser history/driving habits/heartrate/what percentage of your oven cycles are 400F for 18-21 minutes/what color you set the mood-light to, and whatever else some billionaire put their grubby mitts into.
Man, we used to laugh at people who said "they" were secretly tracking us. The only crazy part turned out thinking that it'd be secret.
Well of course, the Dutch are clever.
Handing out Methadone and in the harder cases even Heroin, with clean needles in protected spaces, is what finally properly solved the extensive drug issues in the 90s here in Zürich too. The repression approach they tried first just moved the scene from Platzspitz (known in English as "Needle Park" I believe) to Letten. Harm reduction approaches were the true solution.
Same thing in Portugal since 2001 by the way.
I was just about to mention Portugal. When you give people help and a safe option to quit then many do quit.
That's assuming that it's a problem that governments want to resolve.
They'd rather throw more money at law enforcement/fascist paramilitaries and make laws that criminalize everything up to and including breathing.
Glasgow (Scotland) has a single safe consumption room too, and Edinburgh is consulting on opening their own. Very slow progress.
UK's first legal drug consumption room registers almost 600 users - BBC News
Americans are confused, vulnerable people are for exploitation, not compassion in America.
Here's how science works: you collect data, use it to determine what's effective, then you tell the politicians so they can implement a solution. Most of us would consider giving free heroin to people a bad thing. What we consider it is completely irrelevant because it's based on our emotional reaction.
If the data shows that this approach is effective, especially if it's more effective than what you're currently doing, that's what you do.
The only thing that matters here is: does it work?
Yeah, except #2 and a few notes:
Why get it on the street? Because 3 bags a day isn't enough for a lot of addicts, especially those deeper in. I avoided it but most of my friends got hit, one that's still alive said he used 3 bags a shot iirc, he bought it in bundles for sure.
And also another reason is because of the "it's pure" thing. Bro, they don't want pure, they want the fent. Like actively, they're seeking it out now, there's straight up fent dealers that don't even try to hide it in H or pressies anymore. When a junkie dies and the rest of them hear about it, the dealer's business is BOOMING because, literally, "well if it killed Jimmy it must be some good shit, and I can handle it unlike Jimmy." Seriously, that is actually how bad the mind of the true junkie has been twisted by the brown, it gets pretty bad.
So that's why they'll often still seek it elsewhere, but the free bags are a nice bonus of course.
But for the most part, yeah it gets them near counseling, clean works, and narcan in the room. That stuff is still good.