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[–] DementedSociety@lemmy.world 8 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) (1 children)

I live in Harlem. He really has been great! He's just a genuine and nice guy too!

Edit: word

[–] gigaqps@lemmy.world 8 points 35 minutes ago

Edit: word

You don't have to add "word!" just because it's Harlem

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 28 minutes ago* (last edited 27 minutes ago)

its why most democrats are against him too.

Cause hes setting a dangerous precedent of an elected official serving people, not money.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Converting the Oldest House into literal housing? Bold choice!

[–] Numberone@startrek.website 4 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

Upvote for anything control❤️

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 34 minutes ago

<The nostalgia/pandering is very much appreciated/tolerated.>

[–] False@lemmy.world 18 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

How does converting an office building have zero cost?

[–] Jump365@lemmy.zip 3 points 31 minutes ago

They rent them out, so likely had a contractor do the conversion and then woth the rental income cancels out the cost. "No cost" is also just what that post used, doubt official documents say no cost.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

No cost to the city. Sounds like some other entity foot the bill.

[–] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 hour ago

No cost to the city as explained in comments written long before yours in this thread

[–] stinkytofuisgood@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 minutes ago

I wish I could shake this man's hand. We need somebody to do this in Canada as well. But our politicians are equally as spineless as the rest of them, just with a fresh coat of paint covering their faces like the clowns they are.

[–] UpAndAtThem@lemmy.world 51 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

It's why the corporate neo-libs hate him too. They truly are in the business of managing decline instead of doing their fucking jobs.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 points 33 minutes ago

Is there even such a thing as a non-corporate neolib?

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

They'd rather support a sexual predator that they said should resign from being Governor a few years earlier.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 11 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

Office buildings are generally unfit for apartment conversions since they have so much interior space that isn't really appropriate to use as homes - there's usually a requirement that you get an actual window in your apartment, something I don't think is particularly unreasonable.

A great podcast episode on the topic: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/551-office-space/

[–] gigaqps@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

They're not converting the building. They're tearing it down and building new ones.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 1 points 13 minutes ago

That's a different story then. I could only really go off of the fact that the image said "converting".

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Lies.

Office space is easily remodeled. Most high rise commercial buildings have windows. they are designed for it to be changed every few years.

Older buildings regularly get turned into housing and sell well exactly for their unique characteristics.

I lived in a converted building that had an enormous industrial crane structure inside of it. They had retrofitted a pool, hot tub, and basketball court on the roofs. It even had two stall parking.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social -1 points 52 minutes ago

They have windows, yeah. They also tend to have way more internal space than your average residential high-rise.

I'm all for reclaiming unused office space, but sometimes it's just better to build a new building on the lot, that is fit for purpose.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 29 minutes ago

It's more costly than doing cookie cutter patterns that have been used for residential buildings. It's way cheaper than demo and rebuild though.

[–] Postimo@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a written version of this podcast, all this article says is there are structural and governmental problems, ending with if we want more have the government doing it, which is what they did.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 2 hours ago

There's a transcript here: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/551-office-space/transcript/

But really, I recommend you give it a listen.

My conclusion from it was that, sad as it may perhaps be, it's probably better if we replace these buildings with actual purpose-built apartment buildings. The juice is not really worth the squeeze for these retrofits, in most cases.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 76 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

at no cost to the city

Converting office space into apartments has a cost, it will be easily recouped but there is a cost.

Seems like a good idea though.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 3 points 34 minutes ago

Vacant buildings have a cost too. A vacant high rise building that gets repossessed becomes a massive cost to the city.

[–] gigaqps@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago
  1. They're not converting office space. They're demolishing and rebuilding.
  2. There's no cost to the city because they're selling the building to a private developer on the condition they use the site for housing.
[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 91 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It appears funding is coming from private sources and upkeep labor is being organized by the 32BJ Union, a massive local union that specializes in affordable housing that’s populated with people who work and specialize in “cleaners, property maintenance workers, doormen, security officers, airport workers, window cleaners, building engineers, school and food service workers, factory workers, etc”.

The conversion costs and labor appear to be funded and plan to be performed by GFP Real Estate and city partners, no doubt in exchange for good favor for future permit approvals and project integration by the Mayor’s administration.

Pretty smart if you ask me.

Source: https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/09/mamdani-administration-advances-plan-to-build-nearly-4-000-new-h

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 50 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Having trouble finding any real info on this, but it appears that the city isn't actually performing the work, just changing rules and providing incentives to do the conversion.

So the "no cost" is really just that the city isn't paying for it.

https://www.metro-manhattan.com/blog/which-manhattan-buildings-are-office-conversion-candidates-under-mamdanis-housing-first-agenda/

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 2 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

Seems like the setup is that the developer gets paid back via the market rate housing revenue, while the city gets a guarantee a minimum number of the new residences are rent controlled. So the developer self funds (or take loans) to start the project, it seems. And the city is still the landowner as far as I can tell, so the developer pays the city a share, which is how the city funds getting new office buildings for agencies to replace these.

https://www.nyc.gov/mayors-office/news/2026/09/mamdani-administration-advances-plan-to-build-nearly-4-000-new-h

I had to dig into what they mean by cross-subsidy to figure that out

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[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can you just get the win? It is healthy to be skeptic but in the context of how shit everything else is, what's the point of stating the obvious?

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.social 1 points 52 minutes ago

More good steps in the right direction 👍

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

to the city

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[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 37 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Next, convert Trump Tower into affordable housing.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago

Nah, convert it to a pile of ash.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 20 points 3 hours ago

I wouldn't wanna live in that gaudy hellhole even if you paid me

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Shit no. That would be like living in Mordor. No, to hallow that place turn it into the Trump library with every floor an exhibition of the lies, stupidity, evil and crimes he committed, with the penthouse dedicated to the Epstein Files.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I was gonna say to just line every wall on every floor with copies of the unredacted files. Name it the Trump Epstein Corruption Library

[–] Quokka@quokk.au 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

And Trump into compost for affordable food?

[–] Feidry@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

That would turn any food grown with it into poison, tho?

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Corollary: where did those tax dollars go previously?

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Politician pockets via dark money and obfuscation, as is always has. The reason most people hate taxes is they go right into corrupt pockets. I wouldnt mind taxes if they actually did shit like this.

[–] PNW_Doug@lemmy.world 23 points 4 hours ago

Civilization is expensive and can only be paid for on the installment plan.

When you see what good your taxes can do, it makes you question why the rich don't pay their fair share. They do not like this.

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