I see we are ramping up the anti voting memes up ahead of the American election, comrades.
Political Memes
Non political memes: !memes@sopuli.xyz
'Tis the season, after all. The leaves're changing, time to prime the plebs.
Democrats not turning out in 2024 IS what got trump and the GOP into majority power in all branches of government. Now they wanna make sure you don't come out so the dictatorship can finish its installation.
Do both. Vote and rebel. Hit all fronts.
Exactly! Why so many people seem to think you can't do both is bizarre to me. Makes you wonder if they're actually arguing in good faith or not.
I sometimes wonder if the majority on Lemmy are here solely for arguments.
I've found that a lot of reddit users recently migrated to Lemmy and brought their bad faith with them. As well just generally acting like dipshits.
There's legitimate money and special interests to sway the election. Whether that's with bots or paying for troll farms to post propaganda
Well many here are just rejected redditer so....
(me included btw))
This is the most sane answer here - fighting one war while letting them win the other isn't wise. Doing both and securing all the fronts is how we win.
And we certainly dont win by calling each other dipshits - unless your mission is to dismantle the left.
See I support this, it's the people who think voting by itself will suddenly fix everything that I think are delusional.
Yeah, it sucked when they had to invade to get Orban out of office....
Thank you
You cant generally vote fascists out once they've sufficiently subverted or removed democratic processes, but they can be voted in especially if they're the ones motivated to actually do so, their efforts to subvert those processes take a variable amount of time to complete that sometimes means they're not totally done by the next election cycle, and even in the case of rigged/subverted elections, its not like they'll suddenly become more fascist if people vote against them but won't if people don't do that.
It's also not like voting, when possible, takes away a person's ability to also try anything else. So, unless you have good reason to believe that a given election is actively dangerous, like that they're only holding it to learn who would vote against them given the option or something like that, it makes sense to participate if the option exists.
Worst case, the election is meaningless and one wastes a small amount of time in trying it. Best case, you overestimated how much the process had already been subverted and the election system proves to be still functional. In neither case does casting a vote against someone that seems to be a fascist or similar make them more likely to succeed than if you'd simply stayed home.
If people voting against them did benefit fascists, they wouldn't spend so much effort on undermining elections and voter intimidation, it would be counterproductive.
I'm seeing a weird amount of anti-voting posts 2 months before an extremely consequential midterm that's very likely to shift the balance in Congress unless an incredible amount of voter suppression occurs (and oh look, lots of sketchy voter suppression is going on, plus it would be very inexpensive to spin up some social media campaigns to try to discourage voting)
Yup! just keep spreading anti-voting propaganda! THAT'LL DEFINITELY HELP
Why vote for better leaders when you can just doomscroll and pretend you're daddy's special lil anarchist boy that understands everything so fucking perfectly!
jog on, prick
Anarchist spreading shit to enable fascism and feel justified while everyone suffers.
Fuck off.
[image of billions of dead bodies of innocent people with dipshit 22 year olds cheering that they've solved everything]
This is how tankies think socialism works.
This is how decades of underfunded education looks. This is not by accident.
Hitler was appointed by Hindenburg
After the NSDAP got a third of the seats in parliament in 1932.
True, but my point was that Hitler was not elected by any democratic process
Wasn't it standard practice to appoint someone from the winning party?
Perhaps it was. However, Hitler wasn’t a member of the opposition party in 1932/3
I'm gonna be real I don't know enough about german history to participate in this debate, gg
Much better than pretending that you know what you’re talking about and acting like an asshole
Fr fr
As far as I know, he was voted in. So get the fuck out with this bullshit of yours
Hitler was voted into power.
So he would never have been elected with enough counter votes.
How is the colour of the skin a political view? Racists are pretty confused people it seems.
I've honestly come to the conclusion that white communists, at least the ones online, believe most nonwhite people are radicalized.
The voting is part of it yes?
yeah I don't get the hate. I never interpret these as "voting doesn't matter, don't do it". but I guess that's not common, in which case, fair
vote, but execute [action ]as well
Just a reminder that troll factories manipulate from both sides of the political spectrum: they try to play to disenfranchise effective opposition from the groups they know they won't convince while they promote support for their own candidates from the groups they know they have their support.
Just because Lemmy is not mainstream does not mean it isn't replete with special interests. In a way it makes it more vulnerable to certain types of it.
You're finished Adolph...
This Lemmy ad paid for republicans to support centrists so fewer people vote committee
Umm this isnt limited to white people. Don’t be racist.
Its worked for over 100 years though. It just doesn't work in all circumstances.