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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 24 minutes ago

Seems like that is the end state of any kind of system. Has to be torn down every once in awhile.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

The Republicans seem to be stumbling around helplessly trying to explain why they should get votes, but they keep using descriptions that could be turned around on them.

I'm thinking of Vance's comment at President Pedo's, circle-jerk-a-thon:

"The contrast in this election, ladies and gentlemen, it's not about this or that policy. It's about the party of common sense vs the party of the crazies."

He's 100% correct there.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 0 points 29 minutes ago

Yes, and fortunately in communist countries the “everybody else” is just the former bourgeoisie and other reactionary elements — a tiny fraction of the population.

[–] fisch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't like communism. I don't like capitalism. I don't give a fuck about your petty squabbles and philisophical debates.

But I do find the imbalance of wealth power concerning and I'm supporting whoever will do something against it.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

But I do find the imbalance of wealth power concerning and I'm supporting whoever will do something against it.

This is an issue related to the political and economical system that you said you don't care about

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Communism promised abolishing classes, but failed.

Capitalism promised protecting the elite class above all else, and succeeded.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 points 23 minutes ago

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of Marxism. While a communist society is indeed classless, it can only be achieved when there is no need for a state to defend the people from capitalist reaction, ie when communism is the globally dominant system. Until then, communist counties practice socialism, where the state is controlled by the working class, with the goal of increasing global worker power and eventually achieving the conditions where communism can exist.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's two sides of the same coin.

Anarchism is the best solution for everyone but i think this is only feasible in a planet where everyone shares the same values, customs and norms. To allow mutual trust and respect not to pilfer and attack each other. The best example is in Dune with the Fremens. Each communities still have local quirks and there is slight cultural differences between the Northerners and Southerners but they all aid each other and identify as one people. The threat is from outside Arakkis. So, even anarchist values would have to extend universal wide for anarchism proper to work.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

Under Communism, Man exploits Man, but under Capitalism it's the other way around!

(Sorry, I'll return this joke to the museum now)

[–] stenAanden@feddit.dk 1 points 2 hours ago

Do not delude yourself into thinking the class divide in the US is as bad as in the east block countries.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

In Hungary, healthcare privatization got called "communism" every time someone thought about doing it. Even Fidesz got called "communist" for not doing what the Reagan-era capitalism was in theory, but what the Reagan-era capitalism was in practice.

[–] bergie@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

You see, in Capitalist America, man oppresses man. In Soviet Union it is the other way around.

[–] EffortlessGrace@piefed.social 7 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

No matter the political or economic system, what is to be avoided is the concentration of power, both "soft" and "hard". Alas, I'm more convinced than ever before that this is a feature of homo sapiens, and not a bug.

[–] igmelonh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 36 minutes ago

I've been listening to The Dawn of Everything, a New History of Humanity the past couple weeks and it's been quite interesting. Particularly relevant to this topic is how many societies we have evidence for — through actual contact and documentation or through archaeological findings and anthropological research — that either consciously did not develop or later abolished a ruling class, whether as devolved cultural groups or even in cities of tens of thousands. Examples are given for cities in Mesopotamia, Yucatan, iirc north of the Black Sea, and other areas.

Lots of interesting stuff on personal freedom, collective decision-making, community care, agriculture and conscious lack thereof, etc.

[–] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Distributism is interesting on this front I think, it's sceptical of power and wealth being concentrated by anyone public or private and instead advocates widespread ownership of the means of production.

[–] ExtraJudgement@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree that social hierarchies are a feature of homo sapiens, hence why any good form of governance should be based on restricting our worst instincts. That's what the original liberalism improved with the separation of political power into executive, legislative, and judicate branches. Unfortunately, the same was not done for economic power, which - most liberal democracies - allowed to keep concentrating with few to no safeguards.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago)

The entire point of liberal “democracies” is to provide the conditions so that capitalists could concentrate wealth and power without meddling from the nobility class of feudalism.

WRONG.

In Magastan there are NOT two classes. There's just rich people and some subset of human waste that apparently think of themselves as people with rights (that doesn't make them people in the eyes of the only class existing there).

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 59 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Most governments with the Communist in the name, are just state run capitalists

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago
  • 'Communist' party

  • has nothing to do with communism

  • 'Democratic' party

  • has nothing to do with democracy

Republican fits too, but Democratic is more obvious.

[–] SirLeToet@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Most hatred for 'capitalism' is specificly for "American capitalism". Even though the problem isnt the economic system, as in reality they all suck arse. Capitalism just sucks the least.

Capitalism in Europe is quite social in comparison.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 16 minutes ago

Capitalism in Europe is quite social in comparison.

indeed but still completly unsustainable

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems -3 points 13 hours ago

I mean of all the things to criticize China about, a planned economy should be one to avoid.

[–] Klostein@reddthat.com 0 points 3 hours ago

God looks like Marx