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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was personally and explicitly warned that Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was planning a major attack roughly 10 days before the October 7 massacre, but dismissed the threat and did not alert his security chiefs, according to a shocking new Haaretz report.

The revelations come from research for an upcoming book Hostages: 843 Days of Abandonment, written by journalists Shlomi Eldar and Ruth Yuval, who writes for Haaretz.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 points 14 hours ago

Sounds nine eleven–y

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Apparently he has the gall to deny it.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Don't quote me on it but iirc there were even several barracks worth of soldiers told not to post to even basic security positions for the music festival that was happening that day.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As if anyone in Gaza can cough without Israeli intelligence knowing about it. It was always more of a crushing failure on their part than a resounding success by Hamas.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

In other news: things dipped in water become wet!

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Old news, but hopefully it catches this time.

They basically let Hamas attack and take hostages in order to have an excuse for the the current an ongoing genocide.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

hes doing this to stay out of jail himself they were very close to prosecuting him.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you saying he orchestrated the genocide to draw attention away from other stuff he was being prosecuted for? (Sorry, I'm dumb and can often infer the wrong thing from ambiguous text.)

Here is what I was able to find about criminal charges against him

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

There's a bit more nuance, but yes, that's exactly it.

The nuance being: The Palestinian Authority (West Bank leadership) was this close to reaching a well designed agreement with Israel, which would bring peace to that part of the region.

Hamas in Gaza saw that as a threat to their authoritarian rule because if West Bank can have peace, why does Gaza have to still fully oppose Israel?

Iran saw that as a threat because Israel that's not hitting and getting hit on all sides is an Israel that can become even stronger and fully dominate the region.

Netanyahu and his clique saw that as a threat because peace with Palestine would mean that Israeli people start looking into his corruption and mismanagement.

So, Iran threw a bunch of money and intel at Hamas, Hamas planned the October 7th attack, Netanyahu ordered the military to allow the attack to happen. Everybody's happy. Except the civilians, of course, but let's not get civilian lives getting in the way of politics, right?

[–] MadBits@europe.pub 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HAMAS was heavily funded through Qatar by Israel. They are literally funding different terrorist groups in order to create needed conflicts to justify takeover of land and invasions. They need it for The Greater Israel project.

They will also try to create biblical events through mass destruction in order to harness world wide control through mayhem, as that's their currency. They have no morals, no empathy and consider everyone else to be cattle for slaughter. They will spill as much blood as possible in order to get total control over the world. They want to see all nations bow to them, but they will never have it.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 128 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It really was isreals 9/11.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (6 children)

It was my conspiracy theory from the beginning

The Mossad knows what I ate for breakfast and didn't know this?

They were able to infiltrate into Hezbollah so deeply that they could control their supply chain, fake a whole pager company from scratch and hide a remotely controlled bomb in every communication device, yet could not have any evidence of the terrorist attack planned by hundreds of people?

And by coincidence they had the excuse to start the purge and genocide?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'm not much of a conspiracy believer but Netanyahu said multiple times on camera that Hamas is good for Israel and given how surveiled Gaza was the theory that Israel allowed the attack is very convincing.

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[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I hate it when conspiracy theorists are proven right. It fuels the flames for so much chaos.

Next we'll find out the CIA really can read your thoughts and tinfoil hats really do prevent that.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the conspiracy theorists aren't at least sometimes right they would be fully ignorable

[–] HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Too true, hence the aforementioned chaos.

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[–] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 87 points 3 days ago (7 children)

He did nothing because he wanted to start genocide.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago

He wanted any excuse to forestall the corruption trials for him and his wife. A forever war / genocide worked out perfectly for him.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

He did nothing because he wanted to ~~start~~continue genocide.

It' been going on since the 1970s, it's only intensified as of late.

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Not suprised.

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Didn't they specifically reduce defenses in order to make sure it would be a big enough deal that they could play it for support of going on the offensive?

Or has that been debunked now?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Bush Administration were well aware that something was up just before 9/11, too, and deliberately ignored it, hoping to use it as a pretense for a war in Iraq, so Dick Cheney's Halliburton could take over the Iraqi oilfields. There are multiple documented instances where warnings were given directly to the highest levels, and literally NOTHING was done to investigate or prepare for it.

They probably thought there would be a car bomb or shooting or something, and we got 9/11.

[–] OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It wasn't just 9/11. There's nuance to what they do that gets lost in translation. The most 1-to-1 for me would be Pearl Harbor.

No one from the US planned the Pearl Harbor attack, but it is believed by some that Roosevelt made policy decisions that goaded Japan into attacking the US as a means of gaining support for entering WWII.

No one in the US administration planned 9/11. What is today framed as incompetence was clearly stonewalling from people in key places of power to allow an attack to manifest. It's been years and I don't remember everything I've ever heard that's been debunked. I do remember the head of the CIA refusing to send intel to the FBI was a big sticking point. I think I remember there being a drill going on that day about hijacked planes that made communication confused. I still don't get why building 7 went down, or why some claimed it was almost totally empty that day.

So too with Israel. HAMAS has been allowed to fester in Palestine by the top Israeli officials, going so far as to assassinate more moderate candidates and even smuggle in money to fund the organization. Israel has for a long time had what is considered one of the most sophisticated and robust information networks in the world. There is no way that at least grumbles of this attack were unknown.

I grew up through 9/11. I saw what patriotism does to people and what leaders use it for.

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is old news right? I remember reading about it a long time ago

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

NYT did an analysis that came to the same conclusion like a month after the attacks, and posting it on Reddit got me banned from a lot of news subs.

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[–] postcapitalism@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Israel wants "Greater Israel", and will use whatever means to get it, from the river to the sea.

HAMAS is sworn to destroy Israel and will use whatever means to do so, from the river to the sea.

l could believe this, it's fully plausible that October 7 was a trap. But, that trap was inevitable and could not be avoided by HAMAS, because HAMAS must attack. They will attack again ...and of course Israel will respond, and use any attack as justification to grab as much territory as they can (with a ten-fold response).

They both have the same goals, they are locked in.

[–] l3mming@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A reminder that Mossad's motto is: 'War by deception'

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[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Course he did. It was probably in the monthly status update from Hamas.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

even if he wasn't, he waited 7 hours to respond.

that's criminal.

imagine 9/11 but they waited 7 hours to send in emergency services.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Hamas was planning == was israel's plan, all along

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If this is true, who is the real enemy of Israel?

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