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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 366 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

America isn't like this because Trump is president

Trump is president because America is like this

[–] Prairie_Madness@lemmy.world 173 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

Decades of stripping education funding is taking its toll

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s worse than that. Everyone has been brought up to be a narcissistic consumer and they approach public policy the same way.

[–] Prairie_Madness@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The amount of times I've heard "why should I pay taxes for school, my kids are grown" is way too damn high

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not the issue at all. It's the curriculum, the no child left behind act implementation, and the overall indoctrination and corruption of a system of government that rewards the rich.

Most schools get plenty of money and just blow it on things they don't need. Buildings way too fancy and overpriced educational subscriptions to crap, instead of spending it on more teachers and teacher salary. The money is plenty there. None of the rich fucks get a cut from cheaper buildings and teacher payrolls.

[–] Prairie_Madness@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Stripping education doesn't necessarily mean money. The GOP has waged an all out war on knowledge over the last few decades. Hell Fox News was recently saying "colleges make liberals" despite the fact that all the people saying it had college degrees.

No Child Left Behind gas been terrible. And I agree that money needs to go to teachers, not admins

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[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You'd rather have uneducated strippers?

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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It a fair and accurate criticism and it probably shouldn’t have snuck up on us like this.

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

For those of us watching this ramp up from the 90s into the 2000s and the Tea Party and the 2010s.... it… really wasn't a shock.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. I gave up hope when W was elected a second time after an abysmal presidency and terrible performance in the debates prior.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago

The truth many Americans don't want to hear.

Trump is a mirror.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 118 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Dipshit is so delusional he thinks he can send the military after bond traders.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 99 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I laughed about your comment, paused, and then started getting nervous.

I decided to take a quick glance at the article and came across this:

President Donald Trump suggested Friday he could use the military to stage an "intervention" on bond markets in a confusing response to a reporter asking about Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's efforts to bring down soaring yields.

Much to my dismay, you weren't exaggerating.

[–] DougPiranha42@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Just for the record: in the comments section of a post about a news article in a news community, you described a story about how you read what the lead says when you took a quick glance at the article.
We’re talking about an “article” that is shown as a “2 minute read”, and takes about 30 seconds to read.
Fun fact: the demographic in which Trump gained the most before the 2024 election was “people who don’t read news daily”.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 34 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He can. There's literally no process to stop him right now. He could have people executed in the streets and his supporters would cheer and sell merch.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 74 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

He is having people executed in the street, and they are.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 88 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

This is insane even for Trump. What would a military intervention in the bond market even mean?

My guess is this is just dementia related word salad.

[–] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 40 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

The largest chunks of US bonds are held by nations, so I think the subtext is that if any nation starts dumping bonds to hurt the US economy he may consider it a casus belli. Basically forcing them to hold the bag at gunpoint. This is a dream situation for a conman like him.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago

This is what he means. In fact, I think he is specifically referring to Canada. The first time Trump brought in tariffs, Carney initiated a little bond market run, causing him to back down. It was the first "CO" in TACO. Trump has been bristling since then.

I hate how the headline tries to trivialize the fact that America is threatening to attack its former allies on the basis of trade irritations. This guy is fucking mental.

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[–] Ooops@feddit.org 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it really an escalation from the already established case of 'wanting to nuke a hurricane'?

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[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 78 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

"And then we'll send the Marines to shoot inflation in the FACE." -- Some president soon, probably

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Let's hope we never have another president as fucking stupid as this one

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 weeks ago

Let's hope you have another one period

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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

But Brawndo’s got electrolytes.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 69 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Same guy who wanted to nuke hurricanes.

[–] rethnor@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago

https://what-if.xkcd.com/23/

Evidently this is asked a lot and had been answered

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[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

This needs to stop. Why are we letting a dipshit pedophile destroy our country?

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 50 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a case of the people "letting" him destroy your country. The people wanted him to. Maybe not all the specific details of how he's doing it, but the previous election was largely a choice between "status quo" and "break the system" and break the system won. For some reason few of those voters seemed to be aware of how well the system was serving them, it appears they may have been misled. But that's democracy for you.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Plesse stop with this nonsense narrative. The super-rich and corporations want that, regardless of who is in office, and they get that. They are ecstatic that it's hastening under the current mouthpiece, everyone spouting this nonsense are just mad it's so mask-off, and kidding themselves it wasn't still happening under the fake opposition.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

The super-rich and corporations want that

The real problem is that because the super-rich want it the majority is also on board because they are mostly brain-dead and will parrot every shit media pours into their empty heads.

Which again leads to: the people want Trump. Why they want him is a completely different topic. But the fact does not go away just because you don't want it to be true.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

the poor are too busy dying without healthcare

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 17 points 4 weeks ago

The poor are overworked and overwhelmed, extremely underserved or disserved, and floundering about as best they can for solutions.

They need to take a cue from what is supposedly taught in scuba lessons: if you forget which way is up, stop swimming and watch the bubbles.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the republicans have control over all three branches, and the party has dedicated itself to authoritarian rule under that orange asshole.

This is the government that they have been wanting for my entire life. This stupid fucking country decided to finally gift it to them.

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey now, I can actually get behind the idea of invading wallstreet. Lets let the man cook.

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[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Epstein files? Can the military be used to get those?

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[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 29 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

He’ll lose that war too.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 27 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

He's a walking LLM, just making word associations based on what's most probable to resonate with idiots.

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[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

He just doesn't know what's happening anymore, between periods of amphetamine-induced clarity

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[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This statement is really weird, even for Trump because in the question asked immediately prior he clearly understands the question about whether he directed Bessant to intervene in the bond market stating.

"Not at all. No, he's a very capable man. He wanted to do it. He's very good at it. He is a good touch. Very good natural touch for the bonds and interest."

Right? He understands ehats beung spoken about, or his answer at least makes it sound like he does.

Then the reporter mentions that yields came back up and asks if Trump was going to direct Bessant to do "some other type of intervention". At this point Trump suggests military intervention.

He goes from "Bond market intervention" -> "Interest rates" (reasonable) to "Intervention" -> "I might direct the military to attack the bond market" (deranged) in, like 10 seconds. Is he just playing word association? Is he fucking with the reporter?

[–] VoodooMischief@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I disagree with your assessment that he understands the first question. His answer is just your typical responsibility deflection (“He wanted to do it”) combined with vague praise (“He is a good touch”). It’s akin to Maurice’s generic answers about football in IT Crowd (“Did you see that ludicrous display last night”). The only thing Trump DOES understand is using the military for his problems, which is why his answers ultimately land there.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is my read on it too. He has no idea whether we want bond yields high or low or what. He actually feels a little bit attacked by the question because he doesn't understand it. At first he tries to deflect it, because if the question will just go away, he doesn't have to care about it anymore. But then there's a follow-up. This is a challenge that isn't immediately going away. That makes him angry. He still doesn't know what's going on, but now he has to care about that. So he's gonna make a vague threat about being in control of the military. That should do the trick. That makes the reporters' eyes get wide every time, and he can just walk away at that point and be guaranteed to get a lot of press attention. It's a win-win.

You have to understand that he doesn't see these interviews as means of communication. He sees them as power struggles. Any communication that occurs is entirely incidental.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is getting onboard with the Occupy Wall Street movement?

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No," the president replied. "Not at all. No, he's a very capable man. He wanted to do it. He's very good at it. He is a good touch. Very good natural touch for the bonds and interest. And he did that? Yeah."

The reporter followed up, noting that "yields have come back up since then."

She then asked: "Have you talked to him about another type of intervention? Is that something he will be doing?"

"We have many types of intervention. That's one," Trump said, adding: "The ultimate intervention is our military. And if we have to use that, we will."

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 28 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

No," the president replied. “Not at all. No, he’s a very capable man. He wanted to do it. He’s very good at it. He is a good touch. Very good natural touch for the bonds and interest. And he did that? Yeah.”

The reporter followed up, noting that “yields have come back up since then.”

Faced with the need to think, Trump's failing brain overloads and resets, wiping the context.

She then asked: “Have you talked to him about another type of intervention? Is that something he will be doing?”

Trump recognizes the word "intervention". They must be talking about Iran, or Venezuela, or Nambia or Aberbaijan! I know this one!

“We have many types of intervention."

But I really can't remember which one she was talking about. Just wing it. No one will know. Try to sound tough and commanding.

"That’s one,” Trump said (she has to have mentioned one, after all), adding: “The ultimate intervention is our military. And if we have to use that, we will.”

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[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe use the military for corruption and sexual exploitation of minors?

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 12 points 3 weeks ago

After Trump's remarks, however, it remains unclear whether he and the president are even working from the same toolbox.

[–] Alexfire@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

What the dark magic,

Keeps this fucking ghoul going?

They say victims’ blood

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