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Not sure about grabbing that beer? You're not alone. Americans are reaching for alcohol at record lows, according to a new Gallup survey.

The survey, out Aug. 20, found the number of Americans who say they drink alcohol sits at 54% for the second consecutive year − and health concerns appear to be a major factor.

"Fifty-one percent of U.S. adults now believe drinking one or two alcoholic beverages a day is bad for one’s health," the survey results noted. "The figure is essentially unchanged from last year’s record-high 53%."

In 2001, only 27% considered moderate drinking bad for one’s health, according to Gallup.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

drinking 1 -2 beverages can or bottle a day it already significant raises your chances for diseases.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Any amount increases chances of disease.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

My docs have all begrudgingly accepted that I value enjoying my life more than I value longevity. I'm sure it makes them sad. But I don't see this world / humanity suddenly growing a conscience during my time on this planet, so if I shorten my life a bit, I really don't care. If anything, people will likely get dumber and make me not care harder and faster.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The problem is not that you shorten your life by 5 years and are healthy up until death. It's that the last 10 years of your life is spent with medical / hospital admissions because of the liver failure, heart disease, brain disease etc due to alcohol, smoking et cetera

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Heh. Hospital?

I'm there too. Being in the Southeastern US with all these people who hate everyone who are not like them and who also want to destroy everything certainly has made me reprioritize my own survival. Also, generally all the war and greed. Our species is sick. I'll drink if I want.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like a drink (obviously, as mod of the cocktail community) but would not consider one or two a day moderate, everyday drinking is heavy drinking, or at least habitual drinking.

Two or three a week is the way I drink. Sometimes one or none, and I take a month off at least once a year, never want to get into a habit.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think these statistics have a bit of that going on with them. Now that weed is readily available in almost all of the US and people are more self aware due to their parent's mistakes with handling alcohol, it would not surprise me if the statistics were not completely due to financial reasons.

[–] RobinFated@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Here in Europe wine and beer producers are starting to panic. Representatives are seriously arguing against WHO recommendations (some of them have been doing this since COVID) and the lobbies are very aggressively trying to go against any health promoting legislation that could go against them.

The bigger producers also start to release light or non alcoholic versions of their drinks to capture the growing non-alcoholic market segment.

Yes, it's good, and we see the industry adapting and fighting for profits.

[–] Komatoes@discuss.online 2 points 1 day ago

In Ireland, the in-store liquor section had an entire wall of every type of non-alcoholic wine and beer imaginable. Every pub had Guiness 0.0% on tap

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I appreciate that more places have been providing mocktail options. I just wish they didn't cost as much as real cocktails

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I actually like to drink but especially beer can give me really bad stomach cramps. Not always, but often enough that I rarely risk it. Also my sleep quality is suffering after drinking and with age I no longer can afford bad sleep. Honestly I'm not sure how people after 30 manage to drink regularly. Even though I'm a fit and healthy person, alcohol just affects me too much to be a regular and enjoyable part of my life.

I get it can be "relaxing" in some ways, but having to recover from alcohol the day(s) after makes it a very inefficient way of relaxation.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Honest question: how much do you typically drink in a session?

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

At this point I feel averse effects after 1-2L of beer (stomach cramps sometimes at less) or three glasses of wine or more than two cocktails.

So it's relatively easy to get beyond this when it's a longer event like a BBQ or a night out.

[–] DisasterTransport@startrek.website 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I am in my mid thirties. Someday age will catch up to me on this front, but it doesn't seem to have noticed me yet. I can still out drink most 25 year olds (which does not make me cool). Some of us are just Built Different, and by that I mean that through a combination of genetics, tolerance, and being, ahem, "big boned," my body is fantastic at absorbing, buffering, and metabolizing ethanol. A blessing and a curse in equal parts. Other people will stop at two drinks because their body tells them to and they have the willpower to listen to that signal. My body never sends the signal. Unless I'm in a situation where I have to drive home, my internal "probably shouldn't do that" doesn't overcome the disinhibition. So on a Friday night at home with nothing to do I can easily knock back enough to still be drunk the next day and still not get hung over. Sounds awesome, except that the ability to process alcohol efficiently doesn't protect me from alcohol being a carcinogen or neurotoxic.

The simple antidote to all this, of course, is to not have the first drink. Which pains me, because alcohol rules.

[–] PissMissile@lemmy.world 183 points 3 days ago (53 children)

If alcohol came out today, it would be illegal. It kills more people than all drugs combined. It's terrible for you and 10% of drinkers account for 90% of all alcohol sales. I just wish I could stop.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Word. My Friday evening beer math:

I always try to stick to one beer. These days I manage to not exceed a couple.

You can stop. I won't give unsolicited advice, but dm me if you want to talk about it

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes alcohol, sugar and automobiles are the big killers that we seem to just accept in an “oh well” kind of way. We came a long way on smoking so I’m optimistic about alcohol. “Record lows” doesn’t impress me as a phrase because I know how high the historic highs actually were 🤣

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[–] whereitsat@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From 1997 to 2023, at least 60% of Americans reported drinking alcohol. The figure fell to 62% in 2023 and to 58% in 2024, before reaching 54% today. Prior to the most recent poll, the rate has been under 60% fewer than 10 times, including 58% in the initial 1939 poll and a one-time low of 55% recorded in 1958.

"weird" that usatoday leaves all this important information out lol. "record lows" still means half the population are boozers and the number was never much higher.

[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How did it fall from 60 to 62...

[–] ylph@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It was 67% in 2022, so it fell to 62% in 2023. It was never below 60% between 1997 and 2023, but then hit 58% in 2024.

[–] qwank@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yea reading that made my brain divide by zero

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)

IT'S FUCKING EXPENSIVE AND LETTUCE MAKES YOU SHIT TO DEATH NOW.

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[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I was just reading a thing about this the other day.

For decades, scientists told people that 1 to 2 drinks per day is better for your health than 0 drinks per day. They determined this by asking a ton of people how much they drank, and then asking about their health repeatedly over a long period of time. And they found what they called a J-curve. Basically when they plotted drinks per day vs health over time, people who had 0 drinks per day actually had slightly worse health outcomes than the 1-2 crowd.

So everybody agreed that light drinking was better than no drinking. This became guidance from governments, it got repeated on the news all the time, and it was a huge boon for the alcohol industry.

However, in recent years, scientists went back to take a closer look at this J-curve, and they noticed an obvious thing that wasn't accounted for initially: some people who don't drink have existing health conditions that prevent them from drinking. And some people that don't drink are in recovery: they'd spent decades being heavy drinkers and just didn't drink now. But damage had been done, and worse health outcomes were to be expected.

Once scientists started to correct for these cases, the J-curve disappeared. Not drinking at all was suddenly clearly the safest thing for longterm health outcomes. So that's been the new guidance coming down from agencies and health organizations.

That said, the difference in risk between 0 drinks per day and 2 drinks per day is significantly less than the difference between 2 drinks per day and 5 drinks per day. It's riskier than not drinking, but we do plenty of risky shit because it's fun or easy or convenient. See: driving, flying, eating fast food, etc. So, yes, a complete ascetic chasing immortality may not want to drink, but for most people occasional light drinking is an acceptable risk.

Edit: Autocorrect-induced typo

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[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 57 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Weed is legal in more places than ever. People are aware of cycles of abuse and trauma, we don't want to keep repeating the sins of our alcoholic parents. And now recovery is out in the open like never before, regular folks and celebs both openly talking about their journeys.

There's a big class of folks like myself who don't do hard drugs, don't drink, but will use cannabis and hallucinogens, maybe dissociatives. This is pretty reflective of our times - we're disconnected, our journeys are isolated, our experiences tend to be isolated. So these drugs work well for that, without being destructive like drinking alone is.

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[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I like wine with dinner, maybe a nice homemade cocktail on weekends. All this talk of prohibition makes me uneasy. Ban alcohol today, what will you ban tomorrow?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't drink booze, because it seems like an expensive habit. I don't got any friends nor go to bars, so it is likely going to be a miserable experience. Also, one of my parents was an absolute boozehound, and certainly not someone to be respected. So I avoid alcohol, because I don't know what kind of person I would be.

It is just disadvantages all around, with no upside for me.

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When it comes to American society at large, I suspect that capitalism is the root of why alcohol use is dropping. Third spaces are going extinct, budgets are tighter, time is limited, and work demands greater effort to make ends meet, and most people lose their childhood friendships as adults. The opportunity to enjoy booze is dying.

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