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[–] Nerdybynature@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Honestly, might be nostalgic for guys, but as a girl who was playing games in this era, it made me feel like I wasn’t a part of the culture, rarely if ever were there ads marketed towards me, but man were there a lot of half naked ladies. Glad we don’t do this as much, but god this caused a lot of younger girls to feel ashamed of playing games “for boys”.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It really sucks looking at the detrimental effect this had on gender ratios in gaming to this day. It's gotten a lot better but it's still not there yet.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yeah, we need to level the playing field by having half naked sexy guys on the cover of games. ^please

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

I'm ok with that

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

looking in your direction, clive rosfield

[–] molochthagod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd rather we stop sexualizing characters altogether. If anything, it's silly and makes it more difficult to take them seriously.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think there is space for both sexualized and non-sexualized characters, as long as they are treated evenly. This is entertainment, they don't need to be all business serious.

I dread that in trying to be perfectly respectable, the medium might err to the side of prudishness and sexual repression.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Like Fabio? Pretty much any depiction of a barbarian is some muscular dude wearing only a loincloth and his broadsword.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Doubt that's going to be enough, I think if you want to make a sexually objectifying 90s magazine ad that appeals to female nerds you're going to have to break out the homoerotic innuendos

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

People used to bring up Kratos in these discussions but before these new games he seemed far more likely to bite someone's face off than to kiss anyone. There's a difference.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There were lots of half-naked men, too. Including in this ad.

Most of them in games were more male fantasy stuff...ripped, shirtless dudes with big weapons. Not really appealing to most women, but checks the "I want to BE him" aspect for lots of guys, lol

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but that is just another facet of marketing for men. Sexy dress-up vs tighty whities. Definitely not intended to get women interested.

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[–] molochthagod@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The weird thing is, as a guy, I never even paid attention to the sexualized stuff in games. To me these are like two different brain activities. So, as far as I'm concerned, there was never any point in this kind of marketing. I've never in my life purchased a game because it featured sexy ladies.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It's supposed to be subconscious, like with most marketing. It hits the animal part of the brain, rather than the thinking part.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

It's not really nostalgic for me, TBH. It's actually kind of embarrassing that marketing like this existed and that it worked. I love T&A as much as the next female-loving guy, but ads like this are condescending. But again, they sold units...

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I was a senior in high school at the time and even back then I thought this kind of advertising was crass, gross, and unnecessary. No nostalgia here, just second-hand embarrassment.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I can imagine. I'm glad this is less prevalent now. Seeing it now in middle age makes me go ick. I wished I had been much more aware of this kind of sexism as a boy.

[–] ShustOne@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah as a boy I didn't like these either. They were sexy but made me feel a little weird. I was young enough not to realize it was targeting only boys, but now that I'm older I think that's why I didn't like them. I wasn't in to sex at the time.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Even just around a decade ago I'd explain the demographics shift to more women gamers to clients and they'd not believe it.

Stereotypes stick around for a long time, even when (or maybe especially when) untrue.

It's a shame that "girl gamers" were considered such a rarity when it really seemed like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Oh, a game with only male protagonists with activities only primarily associated with boys doesn't have many girls playing it? I guess girls aren't that into games and we should double down on the focus on dudes."

As a result, the market effectively abandoned around half of two generations of a potential continued audience and had a significantly reduced pool of interested labor to make games.

It's a bit frustrating given my love for games that they could likely have advanced even further had it not been an exclusionary industry for as long as it was (though that can be said about pretty much every business vertical in existence too given our generalized collective history of exclusion).

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It was a super gross and embarassing era.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Am I the only one cringing at the perspective in the mirror more than literally anything else in the ad?

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] AceQuorthon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Man, 90s video game ads were wild lmao

[–] Beardsley@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (17 children)

I'll fight anyone who says 1998 is retro. I'm getting old, but give me a few more years damn.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

If in 1998 you would have argued that 1972 is retro, then I'm sorry to tell you that 1998 is retro

[–] scops@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago

Bro, we lost that fight. I was watching a Youtube video of a guy clearing games from his Steam backlog and introduced one with, "So, many of you watching probably weren't alive when this game came out. Everyone talks about what a classic this is, but I don't think I've met anyone who has actually played this game."

I died a little inside when it turned out he was talking about the first Half-Life.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (5 children)
[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This would've been great for a game like DOOM.

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Oh my god, this is dark.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bro, using ads in the graveyards this is new for me...

I bet this will make a comeback...

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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