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Early last week, I was at the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library for its first weekend. At the library itself, despite President Donald Trump inserting himself incongruously into the opening ceremonies, I did not see a single person sporting a Trump-branded clothing item.

The town of Medora, North Dakota, itself was, however, a different story. It wasn’t overwhelming. But for someone who lives in an urban center of a blue state, where even in the ruby red rural areas most people have become sufficiently shamed to shut up about their MAGA tendencies, a single errant MAGA cap is a rarity.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Last year we hosted a holiday dinner and included a neighborhood couple we had never met. Within minutes it became apparent we had invited a Magat POS. He actually exceeded expectations, bringing up Trump time and again and ignoring the fact we kept changing the subject. It took one of us openly ridiculing Trump to get him to finally shut the fuck up. It was only because we didn't want to make other people there uncomfortable that he wasn't out the door on his ass.

His wife (not Maga) has since approached us asking to get together and we've politely declined. No need to tell her we'd rather have triple servings of Taco Bell lettuce during a root canal than to ever spend a minute in her husband's miserable presence again.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you should tell her. Explicitly. Be very detailed about your feelings. Ignoring these things will not help.

[–] Archimedes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Day old, wilted taco bell lettuce, root canal done by a jackhammer operate with no anesthetic or pain killers.

Detailed.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

His wife (not Maga) has since approached us asking to get togethe

threesome material but prob not worth it lol

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s how you get shot by someone “protecting his property.”

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tonight on "Gunplay Gone Wrong"

[–] JayDee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] 3daybanwithdrawl@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Lmao taco bell lettuce. I do not support the women who support those men. Idc if they say they are different than him.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish every single one of them the day they deserve.

The life they deserve.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish them a socialist mayor, congressman, senator, or president, because actually seeing the benefits of it for themselves is what's going to create lasting change, not conservatism or ~~centrism~~ compassionate conservatism.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Which, given their (fast dying) hegemony, can extend across the world.

They piss us off with their selfishness and lack of responsibility, but we want the good for them, not the bad.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't expect them to.

The social media algorithms they're addicted to have effectively reconstructed their reality. If nothing else, they're a walking demonstration as to why punishing and regulating social media companies is a moral and global imperative.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I watched my MIL turn around. The family is split on the topic, but the more the problems compound the less sure the MAGA supporters are becoming of their decisions.

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish mine would. I love her as a person, but she’s so headstrong about it. She’s hitched all these elements of her personality to it (faith, hobbies, community outside family, decorations). I feel like we’d need some sort of reverse Jan 6, like an event that’s so apparent & bad, not fakeable, but I cannot see anything sticking to Teflon right now.

Rubio & Miller’s recent comments suggest a deeper fracturing coming across America. It’s hard not to believe the worst is coming.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 11 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's bits and pieces at a time. She was a single issue voter. We would talk through points with her and she would think about them and agree.

It helped that she is actually super liberal.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

My parents would rather support this fascist piece of shit than have a relationship with their adult son. So that fucking sucks.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 8 points 1 week ago

It does. My wife realized that she has outgrown her family. She can't detach herself from her family, and I think that the aggressive way they hold on to each other fixes a lot of issues.

My own mother doesn't understand and has an excuse for everything. We were already distancing ourselves 10 years before MAGA, so it doesn't hurt so much. Watching her say that you MUST BE A GOOD CITIZEN AND LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT after four years of watching her trash talk Biden is a trip. I didn't particularly care to stand between her and whatever she had to say then, but the hypocritical irony is right there.

[–] greenfish@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

My in-laws too. I'm sorry 😞

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Not sure how much Americans are aware they are despised as a collective about electing this twice, doing fuckall about it, blaming everything and everyone else and now pushing it onto the rest of us.

[–] bloogoose@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago

Some of us are quite aware.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Doing fuck all about it? The people doing something about it you won't hear about.

You won't hear about any local resistance in another country. You won't hear about any local organization in another country. Hell even if someone was planning another assassination attempt, you wouldn't be hearing about it unless they were really stupid.

[–] oceancloud@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago

The thing that has been most shocking to me about this entire thing is how much foreigners have sided with Trump over the American people. Blaming Americans for Trump completely, even while knowing he is a dictator who ignores the wishes of his own people, and then inviting Trump to their countries to shake hands and make deals. Unbelievable.

I've seen foreign nationals say that we "deserve" to be raided by ICE for "voting for" Trump... the dictator who ignores the popular vote. They're on Trump's side, they want the same things he wants, they just want to feel morally superior.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago (17 children)

People are getting in ICE's face and filming their crimes at risk to ther lives for people they've never met.

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[–] oceancloud@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago (14 children)

You're gonna keep inviting Trump into your country, he's gonna keep shaking hands with your leaders, and even if he kills all of us American citizens all at once in a state-sponsored massacre and you hear about it on the news, your country will not impose sanctions, and you'll see your leader shaking hands with him on television the following month.

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[–] naught101@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gonna get down voted to shit for this, but that's a crap article. It's just one guys saying "I hate MAGA, and would happily watch them drown". Since he never talks to them, the title is completely unsupported. A better article would have at least looked for some evidence, e.g. via some interviews or surveys or something.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, when the author made it a point to fat shame the MAGA on a boat it was about enough.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

I'm cool with bullying MAGAs. They're the only acceptable bullying target, and should be mercilessly tormented as much as possible.

Also Anti-vaxxers. They're just as virtuosically stupid, and worthy of persecution.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are clueless. Protesting we will get overwhelmingly massive honks and waves and thumbs up and other signs of approval and then once or twice amidst it you get the maga yelling loser or fuck you. Its like are they congniscant of how overwhelmingly in the minority they are. Does all the adulation happening in the midst of their vitriole make its way into their senses at all.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Their entire world is built around being the 'righteous asshole'.

In my town they would plaster their trucks with stickers, fly Trump and Confederate flags, then drive around blocking traffic and saying "Fuck You!" to the rest of the world. One good thing about Trump's $6 gas is it has them doing a lot less driving around lately.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wish someone named this effect. Maybe it is some variation the Overton Window overlaid with Dunning-Kreuger. But whatever it is it is pervasive. There are so many people I know that once you get them talking about it they absolutely are anti fascist, anti-Trump, anti-Republican. But they're not vocal. I think decent people are not vocal in general. They rightly feel that it is just common sense to work toward a society that has equity and treats people fairly and the idea that it takes work to maintain that is inconceivable. Like these fascist fuckers will figure it out if you give them enough time. Maybe that's just the way human civilization works... It has to get really bad for the majority of people before ordinary decent folks are forced into action. Maybe one more voting cycle will fix things, so just wait for the next election.

Maybe that’s just the way human civilization works… It has to get really bad for the majority of people before ordinary decent folks are forced into action.

I agree, and I think that's why Project2025 is a thing, and why they're slow-walking the destruction of everything. They're avoiding to, as Admiral Yamamoto once said, "awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." I think our society still has this kind of backbone and character, but only under sudden and extreme conditions.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago

I don't see america surviving if there is not a monumental shift in the next election.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If FOX or The Donald doesn't tell them they're despised, how would they ever know? They are not reading Jezebel.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 1 week ago

Well, there is their family members who either ignore them or make fun of them behind their backs.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Regrettably not the case in my area of Florida. Of course, Florida has a tendency to hang on to its crazy.

[–] Kurtismayfield@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

To be fair, a non zero number of MAGA voters despise anything they are told to despise. So they are just getting back what they deliver on cue from the media they digest.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

It's too bad mass discontent has no influence on the actions of our government.

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