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-The underlying belief motivating all of this

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Destroy it's value and then sell it at a firesale to his billionaire buddies.

[–] grumpusbumpus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

The question is not "why?" Anytime you're stuck asking "why" about a situation, you're in denial. The real question every decent person needs to be asking themselves and everyone else:

What would you sacrifice to make the world a better place for other people?

And if the answer is "nothing" or "not much," you're part of the problem.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 54 points 1 week ago (3 children)

A mixture of stupidity and cruelty. Those things usually go together. Also so much racism, which is a subcategory of stupid and cruel.

There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That's been festering here for decades.

You forgot greed!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

There are a lot of people who would rather personally suffer and die than see a black person have something nice. That's been festering here for decades.

And when Obama was elected, it permanently broke something in their brains

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

This is the answer. And Curtis Yarvin’s technofuedlist neo dark age dream that all the hyper wealthy have injected into thier brains.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Indeed, +1.

[–] ZeroCool@piefed.ca 29 points 1 week ago
[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The billionaires are now richer than many nation states.

I guess the next development is that they will start to go to war against each other over commercial advantage.

Guess who will be in the front line as part of the Great Amazon-SpaceX War?

Not Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I think it's starting, they have shorted the shit out of spacex

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I, for one, welcome the possibility of corporate gun battles to spice up my morning commute.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Commute? Don’t worry, you’ll get a cramped apartment in a company town right next to your work. The walls stopping you from leaving will be for your protection

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

No way the gas companies will allow that. The compound will be a reasonable 25 minute drive from the workplace, with convenient stops along the way for goods and services.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure if you got my suggestion.

You won't be commuting, you will be dodging killer drones with Burger King logos.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

...yeah. like I said, commuting. Tbh probably safer, I'll take the Burger Killer King over the Dodge DUI any day.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why? Because we're an oligarchy from the start and this is what happens when special interests run the show for decades (centuries, even)

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is what everyone fails to see. The US was corrupt to begin with. Our first President was on his way to becoming the world's first billionaire adjusted for inflation and he would have if not for dying at 67.

People are like how did we get so corrupt!?

eye roll

Did you just notice, because it has always been this way.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Turns out Alexander Hamilton got everything he wanted, centralized federal power and 'democracy' in name only. Don't listen to the musical lol

[–] hoppeduponcoffee@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s almost like our country was predicated on having the “liberty” to engage in cronyism and oligarchy.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A county formed by the wealthy for the wealthy for sure.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The question nobody seems to have an answer to is, “Why?”

  1. Is it that (...) Trump’s been a Russian agent for decades and is setting us up to lose to the newly-forming Axis of Russia and China?
  2. Is it that he spent so many years burning with rage and embarrassment at not being accepted by New York high society that he’s just come to hate America?
  3. Could it be that American-values-hating foreign powers that have poured literally billions of dollars into the Trump family are paying him to tear us apart so they’ll never again have to endure the humiliation of having their human, civil, and women’s rights records called out by a future administration?
  4. Is it possible it’s all just to pay for tax cuts for billionaires?
  5. Or are his, Vance’s, and Musk’s white supremacist, Christian nationalist, libertarian, and/or neo-Nazi ideologies so intense that they’re willing to essentially burn the country down just to expel immigrants, deny benefits to people of color, elevate the rich, crush unions, and re-subordinate women?

Trump's personal motives aside, I think it's mostly #4, but it goes a little further than just tax cuts: certain people who pay MAGA a lot of money want to abolish any form of a functioning state in favor of their vision of corporate entities ruling the land.

PS: the articke doesn't have an answer either.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

First and foremost it's because he is literally insane, and doesn't give a shit about the harm he is causing.
So whatever it is he wants, he doesn't give a shit about the consequences to others. If 10 people need to die for him to earn 1 dollar, he will do it, if there are no negative consequences to himself.

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

If I visit the States, should I visit Micihgan, Missssssppq, or the sunny Pqsqr keys?

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Lol, the clanker can't even spell Mississippi.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I prefer South Carouna.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sorry. Are people actually confused about why? It’s all just personal enrichment. This isn’t complicated.

[–] rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Usually, if you want enrich yourself or your friends, you'd want to create a climate favorable to economic growth and skim little off the top of that using the usual corruption methods. You don't want to start a multitude of trade or literal wars that threaten the global economy.

If it wasn't for Trump being the cause of this, you'd almost think this collapse is intentional...

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's how you do it until you start to bump against the limits of growth. When the growth is done, profits no longer matter as much as straight ownership of what remains, and it's easier to take pieces if you smash it first.

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah make a fuck ton of money as fast as possible running as many scams as possible then crash the economy super hard to buy up all the distressed assets on the dirt cheap

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They have been doing this looooong before donnie d'felon came onto the scene.

See Newt's GOPAC and how they documented their tactics to demonize normal Americans, in other words, anyone not a conservative/ Republican in their memo: Language: A Key Mechanism of Control. The evidence goes back further than that (see Democracy in Chains for how little conservatives really care about democracy, or how Nixon was going after "drugs" in order to go after their political foes), but this is from 1990.

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/featured/mechanism-control-1990-gop-memo-reshaped-american-politics-turning-language-weapon/

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh yes the War on Minorities err I mean Drugs.

Nothing like destroying millions of minority families and disproportionally locking up anyone who is not white.

Honestly, the whole Democracy thing is just a smoke screen for oligarchy rule. The US government pits the house (supposed to represent the people) against the senate, judicial, and executive branch (representing the wealthy). 3 to 1 odds are pretty shitty and a poor excuse for a democracy that ultimately is lip service only.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because you people didn't punish the South after the civil war and then let a bunch of richwhitemen run the fucking country.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Wish I could up vote your comment twice. There needs to be retribution dolled out to the South for this.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 6 days ago

Reconstruction was ended too early, in large part because of the Lincoln assassination, and the very questionable choice to appease the South by putting Andrew Johnson a heartbeat away from the presidency

We definitely should have been draconian in punishing the south, but our greatest mistake is civility politics. The leaders were all in the same social circles, and to this day that's a recurring problem that plagues most democracies. They didn't want real consequences for their buddies

So all in all, we didn't strip enough power from the leadership and stopped punishment way earlier than even the overly light-handed plan in place

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Because they want to divide up territory with the tech bros and be governors to their own little spaces.

[–] newton@feddit.online 14 points 1 week ago

Epstein files ? Everybody 🤔 ? Nobody🤔?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Pride, hate, and greed

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What, vote for a woman?

What war? Gas prices are so high now!

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

I hear she laughed funny

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

I think they know that what they’ve been doing for ~100 years is ruining the planet but they’d rather double down on hoarding shit than live normal lives to slow or fix anything.

They’re the type of people that would immediately violate the rights of anyone and everyone if society stopped for even one day. They protect that onto everyone else and they feel compelled to take it all before anyone else can have any.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Fascism gonna fasc.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The billionaire global coup. The US used to be a rallying force in the west, if nothing else. Now that’s dead, on the off chance someone with resources may want to fight back.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When was the US a “rallying force”? I remember them being the worst example of how to run a modern civilization, and I remember always being ranked far too low in personal freedoms, education, and healthcare while be far to high up for prison population and gun violence.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

All true. Also true was the global political influence. Dust, now.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

So each of 10 rich assholes can own each of 10 pieces?

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

You are acting like he has a plan or being intelligent. Madness and stupidity is none of them.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Because it sells

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