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[two characters are talking]
Vaccines have saved millions of lives you know

[a blue character points at them proudly]
Heh, look at those idiots over there, they believe in the most obvious propaganda

[the blue character is shown doing various faces]
Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?
I've seen that 20% of the people commit 80% of the crime
Our military keeps the world a safer place
Everyone starts with opportunities, you have to earn your place in society, work harder

[sixteen variations of the blue character are shown on a multicolored grid]
Crime is out of control and keeps getting worse
Men are natural leaders, women's nature is to nurture
Billionaires create jobs
Poor people just keep making bad decisions in life
Migrants are taking our jobs
Socialism is when we all share the same paycheck
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear
If minimum wages go up, everyone will get fired, it's math
We brought modernity to the countries we colonized
The wage gap is a myth you're just looking at it wrong
Immigration mathematically causes crime
Developing countries are poor because of corruption
We are the good guys
If workers were worth more, they would be paid more
Universal healthcare is communism
Patriotism means supporting the troops

[a large drawing of a serious Garfield is surrounded by the infinitely repeating phrase]
YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA

https://thebad.website/comic/trust_no_one_not_even_yourself

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[–] abc@suppo.fi 10 points 19 hours ago

And of course this comic is also propaganda.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

I don’t think this is a good example of this idea as everything the blue character says is fairly obviously propaganda. They should choose something that’s actually fairly believable if they want to make this point.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The last panel doesn't make sense without any politically differing propaganda to balance it out. All they did was list things one particular group of people already believe, how is that proof that people who don't believe those things are also susceptible to propaganda? Obviously they are, but nothing about the comic logically leads the reader to that conclusion. I don't believe those things so why shouldn't I trust myself? The only differing political viewpoint is the other people talking about vaccines, which isn't propaganda.

You know that, right?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This might be reverse psychology propaganda, making a bad argument that doesn't really support the conclusion to undermine it.

Either that or the "you are not immune to propaganda" is meant to be treated as another propaganda message.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Could be the former, I don't see the latter though. "You are not immune to propaganda" is an objective fact no matter who the "you" is.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not exactly brave to question the propaganda your peer group already disagrees with.

Anyway, did you know communism killed 100 million people?

Yes it's unlikely it's as high as 100M, but it's probably ~50M. About 10M died of famine in the Soviet Union and around 40M in China. 1.2M to 2.2M were killed by the Khmer Rouge, a lot of people died in various civil wars fomented by communist regimes, and of course many died in gulags and as forced labour.

So the image above is doing a strawman style argument claiming that there are people that say "communism killed 100M people", and saying that this is "propaganda". Saying communism killed 100M is technically false (but who said that?), the number isn't likely to be 100M. But it's leaving out the part about communism killing ~50M people worldwide, because the goal is to make the audience think that all claims about communism resulted in a lot of people are dying are false. The goal is not to have discussion on what the actual number is, it's implying that communism didn't kill people.

That's the nature of propaganda, isn't it? Give a filtered version of the world and provide people with half truths and assume they won't bother to seek out the full truth.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 2 points 17 hours ago

Trying to count up the number of people killed by any ideology is, essentially, a nonsense game which can be spun any number of ways and doesn't tell us anything meaningful.

[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

You really could've googled that. Just one google!

but who said that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

On the other hand, you arrived at the correct point that the meme is also propaganda, so IDK, I like you, but listen to your own advice.

The goal is not to have discussion on what the actual number is, it’s implying that communism didn’t kill people.

[...] Assume [people] won’t bother to seek out the full truth.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Granted, one of the biggest reasons communism is responsible for so many deaths is that it was adopted by high population countries like USSR and China. And of course if you frame it via colonialism, what Communism did is almost exactly what the West did in 1800s.

I think there are better arguments against Communism than the number of deaths. Like the reasons those deaths happened: inefficiency, corruption, working against human nature and centralization of power.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Also, the point of the black book of capitalism is to prove, that how misleading the stats are and that communsists could also inflate tge same stats for capitalism, but they didn't (which is probably one of the reasons everything is capitalist now).

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 97 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to talking.

The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on his way to go learn American propaganda techniques.

"What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American.

"Exactly," the Russian replies.

[–] Bad@jlai.lu 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] meejle@piefed.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't see rofl nearly enough nowadays

[–] orlyowl@piefed.ca 20 points 2 days ago

And even more rarely the famed roflcopter.

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Someone needs to make a quiz out of these. I don't see any I believe but I know people who are politically aligned with me who do and and I'm sure the list could be expanded many fold.

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[–] bmpvy@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But we are the good guys, aren't we? :'(

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