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Someone needs to make a quiz out of these. I don't see any I believe but I know people who are politically aligned with me who do and and I'm sure the list could be expanded many fold.
I see a few I believe, and cant be sure I've been suckered with propaganda or if I'm being gaslit here.
But they dont actually affect my day to day so whatever.
In an effort to educate, would you be willing to comment one you do believe that we can talk about?
Statistically speaking, then immigrants and refugees, commit more crimes.
It's not so much the first generation (the immigrants/refugees themselves) but second and third generation growing up in the country of destination, well and often origin for 2nd/3rd.
Even when factoring for socioeconomic factors, they're over represented statistically speaking. But it's still missing a lot of factors.
There's more reported crime in areas with closer population density, most immigrants aim for the big cities; As they're often more diverse and have better job opportunities, but they're often ending up in below median pay jobs. Combined with living in the most expensive areas, they often end up living in some of the roughest neighbourhoods of the big cities.
While a lot of the poor people among the natives tend to live in rural locations, which sees less reported crimes and tends to have no/few turf wars.
Looking at immigrant workers going to Europe during the worker shortage of the 70s, lots of Turks and Persian folks migrated for jobs and a lot of new cheap housing were built at the edges of city centers. These areas full of people not speaking the native tongue, under median pay. Was the perfect storm to ensure slower than wanted immigration/assimilation - Ideally you'd want to spread migration across the entire country, so Ibrahim, Jiao, Radoslaw, Brian and whatever else their names are would immediately interact with natives from day 1.
Which is exactly what several countries did for Ukrainian refugees, we have examples of countries paying their citizens to house them in their homes and the results are obvious. It worked really well. Although we still have to wait another decade, before we can spot whether or not their children still end up in crime statistics.
There also tends to be rules that disfavours non citizens, an example from Denmark is the fact you can be forced to live with your parents until you're 21 if you're a non EU citizen. Even though you were born here, went through the Danish school system aced high school and the likes. You might be forced to stay at home, rendering university impossible for a subset of bright people for a few years of life.
These systematic rules, is something that will turn people against the system and is also a part of the explanation
I pretty much believe the wage gap is nonsense. Maybe at higher levels, or in freelance work or something, but I worked service jobs most of my life and the girls got bigger raises simply for being attractive girls, and most of my bosses have been women. The debate only ever seems to start up to rile people up against eachother. I always feel like pic related when it comes up.
Edit : maybe they account globally, including weird countries where women aren't allowed to work and also including Elon Musk in that figure? The stats can be played with so much to paint whatever narrative you want.
Also the 20% of people committing 80% of crime. I'd never heard that until now but the 80/20 thing comes up so often that it immediately rings true. I'm not in any way invested in criminal activity though so I'm not sure what I would be expected to do with that belief.
Lots of people tackled the wage deal, but I want to talk about the 80/20 deal. That statistic is real: 80% of violent crime really is committed by 20% of the population, and a larg part of that 20 is African American males.
However, where did we GET that statistic? Conviction records. This is where the stat really breaks down, at least I believe, because we have failed to properly interpret it. Black men receive harsher sentences, receive convictions of higher natures, (first vs second degree manslaughter) are less likely to receive parole, and overall fare worse in the justice system than any other race, even when you compare against the same crimes.
Police presence is also always higher in poorer neighborhoods, and black families make a disproportionate amount of families in those neighborhoods. Arrests occur where there are police, not where there are crimes.
I don't think the wage gap exists as a blanket "women get paid $0.70 for the same job a man makes $1" While that definitely still exists in some sectors, I think the issue is much more deep seated systemically, and that's why it can be hard to pin down. Women are more likely to be in lower paying positions. They are more likely to skip out on career growth due to having/raising children. Women's performance is evaluated more harshly than men's, so they end up working more hours to ensure they don't lose their jobs. This isn't an extensive list by any means, but that's the type of issues that can result in women's work to be considered less valuable than a man's.
This is why it's important for programs that combat these types of issues to exist. I know that anecdotally, especially in the service industry, it's easy to say women can make more money, are more likely to be managers, etc. I've seen that as well, but the service industry isn't exactly a high-playing sector. This is a demonstration of my first point that women are more likely to be in lower paying positions.
Also, I think it's pretty lame that you're getting downvoted for saying your stance in an effort to allow yourself to be educated. I think that it's impressive to admit blind spots if your goal is to improve.
Oh, and for the 20% of people committing 80% of the crime, that one is probably close to accurate just numerically, the problem is that people say this is true because the 20% committing crimes aren't white, which is empirically untrue.
Setting aside that historically male dominated fields make more money than felmale dominated fields do..
In the states, I have noticed, the wage gap isnt so much woman/man as it is parents/non parents. the default parent is getting called out of work for the sick child, for said childs dr appointments, for said childs half days and vacations. The default parent is usually, still today, a woman. So while the starting wage for a guy and a lady may be the same, overtime, a mother (or yes some fathers) with a child she is the default for, is going to miss work time, she may be passed up for promotion or other projects, a manager may overlook her because she has parental responsiblities. That last part, men in the same role will often be promoted if he has a family, and its the opposite for mothers.
Also
imagine not being a conventional attractive woman. There are tons of capable, confident young women who old pervy managers just dont find hot. There is a coffee shop near me, known to only hire "attractive" young women. I didnt even bother to apply knowing this, when I have hella exp. working in coffee shops. I got fired from planet fitness, the only job ive ever been fired from, excuse me, "let go", and it was because of how I looked. (mind you I was fit, but I have boxy shoulders, had short hair, and didnt fit this dudes republican barbie aethstetic.)
So that swings a lotta ways man.
Well, it really depends where you are located and what field of work you are in. Where I am from in Europe, wages are different per employee. When you account for women working more often in part time, work in lesser paid care jobs (which is BTW also sexist that jobs mostly done by women get paid less) and that they tend to stay at home more often for the kids and all the other stuff, you still end up with something like 6% of wage difference for the same work that you can not account to anything. Wherever you are from, I think you can look that easily up in some academic literature what and how they adjust these things. What this actually boils down to is that talking about your wages with your coworkers helps and that unions and collective wage agreements are the hot shit.