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[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 hour ago

Remember when PC gaming was dead according to every outlet for two solid years?

[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 52 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Being customer friendly. What a novel idea.

[–] creamfresh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

20 years ago, the exact opposite was said about Steam and they didn’t change much. People just got used to it.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 33 minutes ago

They haven’t changed much? They have like literally a million more games available on their store now.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel like this is not rocket science here, this is like business 101.

  1. Make the customer happy

  2. Enjoy increased sales and revenue

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

N,o, it is economics and at some point over the last decade or so companies decided that the customer should be subjected to a constant shift of quality until it arrives at a level where it is the worst they are possibly willing to accept. Quality down profits up. Welcome to our new world.

This is the new "the customer is always right" attitude.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago

profits down but stocks rise with increased investment.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I never got a PlayStation but I was holding out for a PlayStation 6 once it finally got released. If there is no version for physical discs I will definitely not be getting one. Nothing worse then wanting to play a game you haven't played in a while and then having to redownload it because you had to delete it to free up space for other games.

So much nicer just to be able to throw a disc in and go.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Or run into weird licensing issues you have no control over and the $80 game you bought no longer exists.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

Or you still have the game but they just removed the sound track and changed some of the character's faces.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder what playstation would be like if it had embraced linux rather than fighting it.

[–] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

don't quote me, I might remember things wrong but, there was a version of PlayStation 2 or 3 that had Linux, freedom spooked Sony Source

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

yeah. this is what im talking about. imagine if they encouraged it and yeah maybe they would have to stop selling at a loss but still if they just made their own system based on linux. I mean microsoft was their main competitor at the time.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sony is way too into proprietary lock-in to have allowed that long term. Hell, I'm astonished they ever allowed the release of their games to PC. They'll never do that again.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

see that is just the thing. If they had went linux and relases their pc games as linux compatible but not windows compatible. I mean im thinking in that their box just became a kind of sony linux distro with their whole system made around it. Then like windows users would have to use a linux compatibility thing. I think this would have been a better play.

[–] musubibreakfast@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

Now I'm imagining a parallel time line where they went full in on linux and even put a custom linux build on their experia phones, sony viao laptops and the psp.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

One appears to actually like their customers and the other two are actively hostile towards them. I’m sure somebody at Microsoft/Sony are scratching their heads trying to figure out what’s wrong.

Sony’s disc move just screams of a corporate accountant trying to improve the financials and they pick one of the dumbest options to cut costs on. Retailers are obviously upset as digital download cards probably sell like crap compared to physical copies. Outside of gifts I have no idea why anybody would bother.

Also worth mentioning Sony’s CEO and CSO sold 56% and 18% of their shares 2 days after the disc announcement to the tune of millions.

Sony has a 457m lawsuit against them for antitrust issues which they’ve historically defended with…physical disc sales. So I’m happy to see that decision blowing up in their face and I’ll wait for the outcome on that.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's the point. It's not about the disc. It's about cutting out retailers.

Games sell at the same price or cheaper at the retailer as they do digitally, and the retailer takes a cut. Games sold through PSN or the Xbox store make Sony and Microsoft way more money.

And that's before we get to used sales.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Don’t get me wrong - not to argue. Hate the fact that they’re doing this but asking this genuinely objective point of view.

Why should retailers’s business would be concern to Sony? Isn’t this similar if I was an iron supplier and decided to not sell my materials to one manufacturer that I’m not tied with an agreement, just because I’ve decided not to?

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

Valvle is the only only one supporting Linux!. The rest are greedy fucks.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 145 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Treating your customers decently can lead to profits in the long run. What an insight. They should teach that at business schools.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Valve has fundamentally different goals from Microsoft and Sony

Microsoft and Sony want to increase profit a couple percentage for the next quarter

Valve wants to be profitable 10, 20, 30 years into the future

Thing is, they have been doing this for over a decade. Publicly traded companies can't compete long-term, if there's a well funded provate competitor

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thing is, they have been doing this for over a decade. Publicly traded companies can't compete long-term, if there's a well funded provate competitor

Of course they can, they can use the same aim. Problem is it's more profitable to grind a company down, let it bankrupt and do the same to the next company. Hence enshittification arrived, venture capital has a full playbook for dismantling companies from the inside.

There's still a few old bastions wanting stability, Coca Cola Group is the most obvious example of this

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

its not actually more profitable though. its only more profitable today, at the expense of future profits. this is more a problem caused by personal gain being directly linked to short term corporate gain. its only rational behavior from the perspective of the individual executives benefitting from the crazy compensation packages for laying everyone off and enshittifying the product. literally everyone else loses unless they get lucky and bail at just the right moment.

[–] doublah@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

Publicly traded companies can't compete long-term, if there's a well funded private competitor

That's why these companies love the idea of purchasing half the industry or using their resources to operate at a loss and squeeze out private competitors.

If they can't compete, they can consolidate.

[–] Sineljora@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 hours ago

The gaming industry is fine. The “wall street gaming industry” is not.

It’s about time these corporate feral hogs start to feel the pain of the free market but they deserve much worse, bankruptcy. Xbox still exists, no leaders were laid off, their parent company still supports genocide, and this is all a problem.

Do you really want your games to pay for 8-10 figures a year for a hollow executive team’s risk free compensation? One where they have 0 liability, $0 of their own money on the line, literally not even gamers, to be the last word on what games make it into our hands and how they wring our wallets dry?

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