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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 33 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

One appears to actually like their customers and the other two are actively hostile towards them. I’m sure somebody at Microsoft/Sony are scratching their heads trying to figure out what’s wrong.

Sony’s disc move just screams of a corporate accountant trying to improve the financials and they pick one of the dumbest options to cut costs on. Retailers are obviously upset as digital download cards probably sell like crap compared to physical copies. Outside of gifts I have no idea why anybody would bother.

Also worth mentioning Sony’s CEO and CSO sold 56% and 18% of their shares 2 days after the disc announcement to the tune of millions.

Sony has a 457m lawsuit against them for antitrust issues which they’ve historically defended with…physical disc sales. So I’m happy to see that decision blowing up in their face and I’ll wait for the outcome on that.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's the point. It's not about the disc. It's about cutting out retailers.

Games sell at the same price or cheaper at the retailer as they do digitally, and the retailer takes a cut. Games sold through PSN or the Xbox store make Sony and Microsoft way more money.

And that's before we get to used sales.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Don’t get me wrong - not to argue. Hate the fact that they’re doing this but asking this genuinely objective point of view.

Why should retailers’s business would be concern to Sony? Isn’t this similar if I was an iron supplier and decided to not sell my materials to one manufacturer that I’m not tied with an agreement, just because I’ve decided not to?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 minutes ago

One could argue, with video games specifically, that they lose part of the market without the retailer.

A lot of games are played by kids, and parents, friends, and other family members still go into a store and buy a game to give as a gift.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

Tell me again how many discs valve is selling? What happens to your steam account when you die?

I like valve, but don't fool yourselves, Gabe N does not give a shit about the customers any more than Asha or Hideaki.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 minutes ago

Why would I want more plastic crap? I have zero issue with this.

My account is my entertainment, I see no reason to have it after I die. My kids don't want it, they have their own.

The savings and convenience far outweighs any second hand retail. I am glad I don't have to burden my kids and family with even more physical crap they would have to toss out.

[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that's just objectively incorrect. Gabe at least recognizes that piracy is a service problem and being consumer friendly is more profitable in the long-term. People like Asha and Hideaki can't seem to figure that one out no matter how much evidence is given to them.

[–] wopalopa@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i love steam but he does raise a good point. vavle explicitly said that steam acc is legally not transferable. there's no second hand market and your library is legally gone for good when youre gone.

no matter how good valve is right now. the threat of enshittification is real, and will remain so until the discourse of the right of owning digital game is settled.

[–] qaeta@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh yeah, Steam is not perfect by a long stretch. It mostly looks good by comparison with it's competitors who appear to take being gently asked NOT to shit directly down their customers throats as basically a death threat. Was just pointing out that saying Gabe doesn't give a shit is incorrect, as he does give a shit insofar as giving a shit has actually turned out to be the best long term strategy for Steam's profits.

That said, Steam actually does have a history of honouring wills to transfer a dead persons library to someone else on death, despite that technically being disallowed by their ToS. So they aren't bound to do it legally, but they do currently tend to. Which honestly might get them into some legal hot water if they ever try to enforce that term.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Valve is one of the few companies that has historically honored people’s bequests and allowed bequeathing their libraries to others after they die. Unlike say Apple who has outright said that your iTunes purchases disappear into the ether when you die.