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Lizardman's constant (the percent of people who will give a stupid answer in a survey, for fun) is also 4%.

Ain't nonya bein' persecuted.

[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

People who are kind, considerate, and compassionate towards others do get persecuted.

People who don't tip at Cracker Barrel on a Sunday after church probably should be persecuted.

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

That should tell you who is winning.

Slow the Decay

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You know what persecution is? Having to pay taxes.

Churches should pay taxes and stop persecuting the rest of us. Churches are everywhere, not paying property taxes and many other benefits that NO other non-profits/charities receive; we all have to pay for their share.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

A religion that has a building dedicated to it on every street corner does not get to claim they are persecuted.

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, one of the things that made me doubt my religious upbringing was the preacher repeatedly saying that Christians are a persecuted minority to a Sunday crowd of some 3000 people, in a church people nicknamed "Fort God" for its massive size, in a town where "on every street corner" really isn't much of an exaggeration. In hindsight, it was laughably ridiculous.

Also, the literal military-worship on Sundays near Memorial Day and Veterans Day was a bit jarring even to the young, good-little-Christian me.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Christians don't get persecuted for being Christians.

They get persecuted for acting like insufferable assholes. Don't do that and there won't be a problem.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

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[–] adarza@piefed.ca 45 points 1 day ago

lemme guess....

25 persons voted, including the moron that created this 'poll'.

(24/25 is exactly 96 percent)

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

It's a known phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_complex

Though seems to me that persecution narrative must be pushed top-down by a minority, if 96% of the actual people vote "No".

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Oh boy, I imagine that one has an interesting "talk page" lol

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Their scripture literally tells them that they would be persecuted.

And they were... for the first four hundred years...

Not so much anymore, though. Unfortunately they don't view the bible as a historic document, but as the infallible and timeless word of god...

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes. Was 380 when Christianity became state religion in the Roman Empire. I believe that was also when they had all these councils to codify what's in the New Testament etc. I remember some notable exceptions from history class, like the Nazis. Some shenanigans between the Catholics and the Protestants, the French Revolution, Communism... But other than that, they've mostly been at the giving end during the 1646 years after that.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The edict of Milan, legalizing (ending official persecution) was in 313.

Unofficial persecution might have continued in pockets, but also it’s reasonable to believe that persecution was far from universal going into the fourth century.

All Jewish authorities in the first century were far less persecutial than the scriptures claimed - and Rome probably saw the matter as a domestic dispute (“bruh, just don’t start a rebellion and your cool”) until they started spreading out from Judea.

Most of the deaths of disciples are recorded in apocryphal works that are more fantasy than not. (Or just made up wholesale by people like Eusibious)

[–] Stonewyvvern@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Oral history with a bunch of humans who never under any circumstances exaggerate.

Oral history remembered by a bunch of drunks with memory issues.

Oral history remembered by victims.

Oral history remembered by a bunch of angry drunks who never hurt nobody and didn't do nuthin.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

they don't view the bible as a historic document,

It's not even very good at being that. There is a lot of misinformation, events that are provin false by other historical data and self-contradiction within its pages.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago

I meant historic document as in a document written at a moment in history, not necessarily an accurate historical account.

Like, Homer wasn't a historian, but a historian specializing in ancient Greece would certainly read Homer to glean an idea of the beliefs, values, and ideals of the people during Homer's lifetime.

Modern christians don't even view the bible as a collection of documents that were written within specific contexts at specific moments in history, they try to remove it from all context and interpret it in a vacuum as if it was all equally applicable today

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s seems like a psy-op by the wealthy.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not... well. maybe it is. but not directly.

The messaging is there to keep people from leaving.

they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking on their door at seven AM on a fucking Sunday. this is, for example, the point of the Mormon's mission... or JW's.)

along with all this, they'll get you to burn bridges with your support systems; and to annoy everyone around you.

The whole goal is to keep you from leaving, even though they're incredibly toxic.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅

I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just John and Timothy... But boy did they turn that upside down with what we have as of today. Especially in the USA. I think "they" accomplished their goal. Interesting, though, how the establishment (in modern times) often comes with some urge to claim victimhood. And I don't think it's traditionally part of totalitarianism.

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[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They're so persecuted, they're afraid of answering yes on this poll! Incontrovertible evidence of Christian persecution!

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