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Christian on Nextdoor didn't get the answer they wanted (discuss.online)

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not... well. maybe it is. but not directly.

The messaging is there to keep people from leaving.

they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking on their door at seven AM on a fucking Sunday. this is, for example, the point of the Mormon's mission... or JW's.)

along with all this, they'll get you to burn bridges with your support systems; and to annoy everyone around you.

The whole goal is to keep you from leaving, even though they're incredibly toxic.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅

I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just John and Timothy... But boy did they turn that upside down with what we have as of today. Especially in the USA. I think "they" accomplished their goal. Interesting, though, how the establishment (in modern times) often comes with some urge to claim victimhood. And I don't think it's traditionally part of totalitarianism.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

so... Jesus wasn't actually against the rich nearly as much as people make him seem these days.

The flipping of the tables wasn't that they were doing business or even taking advantage of people. it was that they were doing business inside the temple.

as for all the "go sell your shit and follow me" stuff... well. yeah. Imagine, if you will Jesus with a cheesy sleazey-car-salesman grin and his hand out. Also notice that he really had a thing for hanging out with rich people.

none of the disciples were particularly poor. Mathew was a tax collector. James and John were both heirs to a successful fishing business, two of the others were senior employees in that business. he dined with and partied with the rich all the time, too. Joseph himself would have been well off (as a tekton, he wasn't exactly poor. He was the guy that built everyone's homes and such.) (though Mary probably fled from Joseph when he found out she was preggers. details)

basically, he acted and sounded like every half-baked cult leader you can imagine.