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[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Suppose that I decide to pack up the cat and everything I own and just disappear one day?

I can't do that with a bike.

[–] TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago

Then you own too much shit

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

unless you and your bike are very strong and you have a large cart and some rope

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hills. If you live near hills bikes don't work too well at least not as transportation, they work more as exercise equipment then.

I've actually got an electric bike and it does solve the hills problem but then it has the it weighs as much as a baby elephant problem. So it's still a pain if you have to lug it on and off the train.

[–] AceBonobo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You are seriously underestimating baby elephants :D

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

One downside I haven't seen mentioned yet is the hassle of having to laboriously lock up your bike front and back, saddle bag, too, so some freaking degenerate won't steal anything that isn't secured. I've had my rear wheel stolen before (who even DOES that?) and am not looking for a repeat.

I love riding my bike and do most trips with it in the summer (shopping, appointments, gym, etc.)

But I envy motorists sometimes who just get out of their car, push the button on their key and everything's neatly locked up.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder that if you only have enough lock to lock your frame and ONE wheel, make sure it's the rear wheel! It is the most expensive of the two to replace.

That said, bike thieves should have their fingers broken.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like drop out wheels were a bad idea. For the number of times you actually want to remove your front wheel I'm happy just having to undo a lug nut. Drop out wheels have made it too easy for bike thieves and they just unhook the wheel and run off before anyone notices what they're doing.

A good compromise would be dropout wheels but they need unique key to unlock the wheel.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

There are locking axles that replace the quick release axles, to do what you described. A couple companies I've heard of (but haven't tested myself):

https://www.pinheadbikelocks.com/ https://hexlox.com/en-ca

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is the upside of living in a very bike heavy cultured city, I feel like there's so damn many bikes everywhere that no one gives a fuck about my bike. I also have never left it outside overnight.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

As a full time car-free person, this is absolutely a valid argument. I'm lucky to live less than 10 minutes away from my job. I could bike there in even less time, but walk anyway specifically because I don't want to deal with these logistics.

Weren’t you paying attention? Bikes are so cheap you can just buy another when it gets stolen.

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[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

someone compared efficiency and long distance trains are more efficient, but that's it.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Further proof that trains are the ultimate form of transportation. But we all knew this. Choo choo!

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bring back trains so we can have real suburbs, where you can live in a small town and be a 30 to 45 minute train ride from a city center.

Bike and train could mean never having to deal with owning a car ever again.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you seen Montreal and their REM?! An autonomous train every 15 minutes?!?! Sign me up!!!

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I live in Montreal, the REM is nowhere near where people live so people end up driving to it anyway, it doesn't transfer from the Montreal Metro or buses and it's more expensive.

I honestly believe the REM exists so that our scumbag conservative provincial government can point at it and say "See? Trains are a failure!", while he cuts public transport funding again.

[–] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use a bike to commute 6.5 km to work and it's not just a good time. I do have a dedicated bike/pedestrian paved path (with few pedestrians, just a lot of other bikes) which is nice.

But in rain it sucks. And in winter it sucks even harder with the cold, and snow and ice. I have studded tires but that adds to the suck as they make you slower. I always have to shower when I get to work. I deliver and pick up in kindergarten, and there is no place to lock the kid trailer, so it adds an extra km to pick up and dump of the trailer at home.

I still use a manual as it gives me some excercise, but an electric bike would solve many of the issues.

And I save money on parking and toll. And bc of traffic I use about the same time.

Nothings perfect

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But in rain it sucks. And in winter it sucks even harder with the cold, and snow and ice. I have studded tires but that adds to the suck as they make you slower. I always have to shower when I get to work. I deliver and pick up in kindergarten, and there is no place to lock the kid trailer, so it adds an extra km to pick up and dump of the trailer at home.

Where I live the parents all have those e-bike SUV things that have faring and rain covers. They are about the size of a large motorcycle and probably weigh 100lbs. Urban arrow is the brand and they are about 10,000. Price of a used car.

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Distance. Carrying capacity Speed

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mostly true but I find the price is pretty high nowadays.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't need a carbon road bike to cycle to the supermarket, you're not racing in the tour de france.

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Yeah well even basic bitch bikes go from 300-1000 euros. Even second hand is 175 cheapest. And then you have a shitty one.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Almost as if cost of living has increased, but wages have not…

[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's my point. We don't exactly live in a "oh it's stolen, oh well" time.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I used to live in a town in the US where I could bike across a college campus to get to work. That was heaven.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

Cars can easily long distances in a short period of time in most weather conditions comfortably, allowing the freedom of movement even if it isn't done daily. It is a symbol of long distance freedom on weekends and holidays, not daily commuting.

[–] charokol@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

goes as far and as fast as you can

And cars go much further and faster than I can

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[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago

If only we had good bicycle infrastructure everywhere 😔

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Anon missed the biggest sin of all:

Monetizable, but only at two or three orders of magnitude less than automobiles.

TL;DR: "He's cheating because he's not spending as much as I am."

They're cheaper in every conceivable way than cars, and that's why the worst people out there hate them. Once you see the systems in place to equate personal validity and social values with what wealth may be extracted, it's impossible to look back. Bikes are effectively a form of protest by way of scaling back one's economic interaction, because of this.

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[–] roteradler@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Because cars make a shit load of money for the ~~economy~~ the rich people.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (8 children)

the only bikes that make any money to sell are the ones that are for rich people.

the profit on a $500 bike is like 200 bucks, the profit on a $15,000 bike, is like $10,000

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

Bikes are awesome. Bike infrastructure helps wheelchair users and pullcart users as well.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Have definitely seen bike traffic jams in London before, you get a lot more people through though!

I don't have a photo of a big one though ☹️

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

Can only be safely used in good weather.
Collisions will, in fact, fuck you up bad.
Limited cargo space.
Single occupancy.

[–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)
  1. Try a rain poncho
  2. Two bikes colliding may fuck one up, but death is VERY unlikely
  3. Electric cargo bike
  4. Electric cargo bike

Most arguments against bikes are from people who never even tried to address the issues. It's like "I've seen a BMX and that's ALL there is!"

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Scandinavia and the Netherlands disagree on all but one of those points

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