this post was submitted on 25 Jun 2026
184 points (93.0% liked)

Canada

12094 readers
383 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Related Communities


🍁 Meta


🗺️ Provinces / Territories


🏙️ Cities / Local Communities

Sorted alphabetically by city name.


🏒 Sports

Baseball

Basketball

Curling

Hockey

Soccer


💻 Schools / Universities

Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.


💵 Finance, Shopping, Sales


🗣️ Politics


🍁 Social / Culture


Rules

  1. Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca


founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Carney has been otherwise good, but he's very wrong about this. Very wrong.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

Worth it for Canada, yes. It's cost the US trillions of dollars and distracted Trump from attacking us. They no longer have a strong position in CUSMA negotiations as their economy is in shambles.

For Americans it's a terrible terrible thing, but Canada will be just fine.

We must bear in mind that this was said by a pious and devout Roman Catholic about a Muslim country.

The Middle East is not just about Jewish vs Muslims. The entire Crusades were about Roman Catholics vs the Muslims as well. It just gets obfuscated by the 'Jewish/Israeli/Palestinian' thing and the Catholics get a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The 'Canadian Dimension' is a propaganda outlet frequently conveying pro-China and anti-Western - including anti-Canada - narratives.

I don't support the war in Iran, but this is an unreliable, pro-authoritarian propaganda organization with a strong selection bias in both topics and narratives.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 23 hours ago

Its also an inaccurate oversimplification of what Carney actually said

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

pro-China

Weird how a very vocal population of Lemmy and Reddit will shout "China is good now!" When I mention that they are actively and openly trying to manipulate Canadian politics. And how importing boatloads of Chinese developed tech is like putting a spy in every home and business network.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 39 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Diplomacy is the art of saying “nice doggy” until you can find a rock — Will Rogers

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (12 children)

When Trump first attacked Iran Carney practically ran to the nearest microphone to tell us all how he thought it was just dandy. The guy has repeatedly expressed support for the war because that's how he feels.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Except he doesn't seem to really want to commit to that. He is still making massive deals with US corporations and sharing massive data with the US, not to mention pushing through massive surveillance bills that only will benefit them.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

"Nice doggy — go ahead and tear apart that stranger, it's totally worth it. Would you like to buy some rocks?"

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm ready to try NDP at the federal level.

[–] RainbowBlite@piefed.ca 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We need proportional representation for this to work. The Conservatives are so ghoulish that people vote Liberal as a safety. If the left splits the vote, the Conservatives get a majority government with only 40% of the vote.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Now that Starmer is done Carney is gunning for most disappointing head of state.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 7 points 2 days ago

Lots of people are still glazing him for that one speech where he suggested Canada should be more like the USA.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 27 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Choice 1: PM flatters trump at zero cost to anyone anywhere.

Choice 2: PM picks a fight with trump with zero gain to anyone anywhere.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Decisions decisions decisions.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Choice 3: Carney shuts the fuck up and doesn't look like a stupid asshole. That would have been a good one. The guy absolutely didn't have to fall over himself to support this dumbass war, multiple times.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That is an option, but we are still in the midst of a trade war with the US, who remains out largest trading partner.

If Carney can offer platitudes that cost nothing to get some goodwill with the US that might actually help Canadians, then why the fuck not?

Ultimately, Trump (and maybe some armchair policy experts) is the only person dumb enough to not see through this ploy. It's not going to affect his position in any negative way, and has a small chance to affect it positively.

I disagree with Carney on almost all of his real policy decisions, but the man knows how to play politics, and I'd much rather he be in office than PP.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Does this cost us nothing? I thought we were trying to pivot away from the US. How does it make us look to the rest of the world when our leadership practically sprints to support the US in violating international law?

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I mean I don't really like Carney or his policies, and I hate Trump even more, but this is clearly the only logical approach to dealing with Trump at the moment. Talk is cheap (something Carney clearly understands because he uses talk very cheaply all the time), and Trump loves flattery, and he hates being criticized, and he will irrationally lash out at anyone who does. He's proven that so many times, there's no benefit to aggravating him and giving him a target to fixate on, just let him flail around aimlessly and try to dodge his aimlessly swinging fists.

I'm getting really tired of listening to or wasting almost any attention whatsoever on what people say anymore, because it's all fucking lies anyway. I've started carefully watching what people do instead, and while I have some scathing criticisms of things Carney has done and is doing, the things he's doing also very clearly don't benefit Trump. Trying to make him out to be some Trump-friendly-crony is disingenuous and inaccurate. He's dangerous in his own way, but he's no ally to Trump and the things he's doing to distance the Canadian economy from the US and build lasting international partnerships that are going to define Canada for generations? That's significant stuff.

The frequent praise he offers to Trump is always empty, meaningless words with no real weight behind them and certainly no actions. Carney knows that, and anyone paying attention should know that. Trump is the only one who evidently doesn't know that, but it's also possible he just doesn't care. He's more interested in appearances anyway, and the appearance of having Canada appear to support him is meaningful to him even if it's meaningless in actual fact.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Carney has made it clear he is a committed imperialist maybe stop excusing him?

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

It's 100% worth it for Trump.

It worked as a distraction from the charges of child rape and trafficking against him.

He lost nothing. Only all of us lost. We don't matter to him.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago

Can people stop excusing Carney's noted imperialism and internal oppression and hostility to first nations and environmentalists as "5-d chess" its rather disgusting that's what this thread is.

Meanwhile, every grocery corporation across Canada, that already had a huge windfall from the COVID pandemic by artificially growing prices, are doing it again thanks to this war and the energy crisis it created, as if we weren't being gouged enough already. But Mr. World Banker over here thinks it's fucking worth it?

Fuck him and the horse he fucking rode in on. Fucking rich elite ass hole.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean…it was pretty worth it to reduce the effect of the U.S. on the global economy.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As an Iranian I'm devastated that they killed so many people and bombed cultural sites. I'm mad that they destroyed infrastructure. I'm frustrated that their actions strengthened the religious right.

But I'm weirdly proud that their empire came to Iran to die. I'm proud that Iran just flat out refused to sell out to capital, and had made their homework.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Oh don't get me wrong, the destruction is terrible. The deaths are terrible. The cultural sites are incredibly sad. But this could be like the death of the Ottoman empire, the Roman empire, the Qing dynasty, etc.

All of this being led by Israel for decades of course, fomenting hatred of the Iranian people and anyone not Israeli (even Jews that spoke out against Israel). Of course Iran had time to prepare and make sure that they made the war count.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Carney is a fucking clown.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He gave a nice, anti-socialist and anti-labor union speech at Davos, but then immediately turned back on it and went to business as usual. For all of his talk about wanting to break Canada from the US, his attempts are haphazard and he is still committed to making massive deals with US corporations at the expense of Canadians.

[–] Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 5 points 2 days ago

Canadians need to stop thinking of politics in terms of a binary system, it really doesn't help that we never got the ranked voting we wanted from Trudeau. But I'm sick of seeing people get annoyed with Liberals and turn to Conservatives, it gets from bad to worse because as a country we can't think outside of those boxes.

I know I'm placing to the choir on this site but it gets so fucking frustrating.

[–] Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He's wrong. Period.

This was the single biggest US foreign policy blunder I've ever witnessed. The fact Trumps own country isn't tearing him apart right now is a testament to his cult like grip on the GOP.

load more comments
view more: next ›