Yeah they're turning Americans against data centers by describing them objectively, how insidious...
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They absolutely do this but it doesn't mean anti datacenter people are wrong. Russia, China, Iran all use amplification techniques to destabilize other countries. You don't need a complex propaganda plan when you can just amplify every divisive topic and get brexit.
You don't need a complex propaganda plan when the U.S. government and corporations conspire daily for new ways to fuck us over. It's not propaganda at that point.
Why not both? The word propaganda is a bit problematic as it encapsulates too much these days simply because our information landscape is much richer. It can be a valid issue that is amplified by bad actors and it's still propaganda.
What makes it apparent imo is the "water use" discussions around data centers which frankly are so delulu that it reeks of artificial stimulation. If you're not familiar there's basically no water use issue with data center in any meaningful extent other than moving water and we solved moving water 2 millenia ago.
Easy to do when people don't fucking want them, and more specifically, they do not add any value to ppls lives, they only take to away. If only we have reps who represented anything but their own self interests.
China didn't attack Iran and send global oil prices sky high. China doesn't bully my government into bad defence contracts.
I'm so tired of racist fear mongering about China. They aren't a perfect country, but the suggestion of the United States judging any other nation right now is mind boggling.
China didn't continually insist Iran was two weeks away from a nuclear weapon for five decades, nor did they bomb and kill the religious leader that expressly declared nuclear and chemical weapons are against God and Islam.
Believing American narratives at face value is an unhinged reality to live in.
America is the most propagandized place on Earth, after all.
They in fact made a law that makes it illegal to layoff workers specifically to replace them with ai
Lol. It's obviously a consortium of trans, immigrants and antifa that are behind it. While Michelle Obama and Soros are funding the operation.
You mean the well known male politician, Michelle Obama?
In a armless dress of all things!
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OpenAI is doing a much better job than China at getting people to hate AI.
Im not against data centers, that's mostly where the internet runs from. Im against AI data centers though
Considering this, I'm even more against data centers 😁
I worry this may be a real problem though because there is not any real distinction in the messaging.
I work in a small data center. Its a 50x100 ft or so room with a few dozen racks of servers in a non descript old telco building. Not a giant water and energy sucking monster.
Just put a sign up outside that says "Not for AI" or "These are porn servers not AI"
"Local PornHub CDN"
The rage against Data Centers must be because of filthy foreigners, it couldn't possibly be because of how the 100% American billionaries and their bought and paid for 100% American politicians are imposing on everybody by hook and by crook something which for everybody but said billionaires is a net bad thing (since for everybody but those capturing the profits of Data Centers, the nasty side effects of them vastly exceed the minuscule benefits from them which are nothing more than a handful of new jobs per Data Center).
"Always blame foreigners" is a core practice American political discourse, quite independly of which side of the Power Duopoly one is aligned with, probably because it perfectly dovetails with the American Exceptionalism the locals are indictrinated in their whole lives.
Because there is no Chinese campaign against data centers. China was simply pointing out the environmental and economic impacts data centers have on the areas around them.
Who is saying data centers are okay? They are not. And I do not even have any issue with LLM usage, yet I still recognize that data centers are incredibly resource-intensive and can have significant impacts on the communities that host them.
Being anti-AI or anti-datacenter isn't a reason to deny that China is doing this. It's not like they don't want there to be datacenters, they just want everybody to use theirs.
Theory as valid as this one : openAi is funding an astroturfing campaign to make Being anti AI a crime.
Whether either one is true or false should depend on whether there's evidence of it, not on comparing them for ridiculousness.
Any of you read the article that OpenAI wrote? Here's a quote: "The operation sought to exploit and amplify existing public concerns about energy prices and local impacts of data center development, but we found no evidence of meaningful breakout beyond its own activity ." So it's less "China is making you hate data centers" and more "they tried but it didn't work".
More like "We tried to blame it on China but couldn't find evidence to back up our accusations"
It turned out people didn't need China to find reasons to hate our data centers.
"Our PS2 is so powerful Iraq is building WMDs with it!"
I mean I would not put it past them, but I still hate the slop factories. Two things can be true at once.
Nah, don't even give it credibility of thought. This is propaganda for sure. "Oh the Chinese don't want you to have data centers, give us all your water and electricity so the Chinese don't win pleeease"
China may not want the US to lead the AI races, but don't forget these AI companies are trying to destroy communities in the name of corporate profits.
More BS pre-IPO marketing PR, look our tech is so dangerous and scary China is trying to shut it down.
Even though China is basically in the lead with open weight models that use less energy to run (MoE) and cost (probably way) less than a tenth as much to train for around 90%+ the effectiveness of frontier models.
Next after this post about chineese users,
A story about a man who says theres something on his shirt, is he gullible enough to fall for it?
the red luddite spectre very spooky oOOoooOo
they want to take your freedom slop