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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Which of these names are of interest to us?

  • Dustin Moskovitz and Coefficient Giving / Open Philanthropy
  • Mark Zuckerberg (less enthusiastic about EA)
  • Chris Larsen of Ripple cryptocurrency
  • Patrick Collinson (less enthusiastic about EA)
  • Emmet Shear formerly of Twitter and OpenAI (sides with the cultists against the grifters)
  • Ezra Klein the Vox and NYT pundit

Tallinn, Bezos, Musk, and Thiel are missing.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

some LWer suggested Moskovitz for president a while back

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Glad to see the superrich don't object to paying large sums to build society. So we can just start wealth taxing them instead, that'll be fine right? That way they don't have to spend their valuable time cherrypicking initiatives and charities.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is just a case of efficiency, they are good at making money, not spending it, so we should tax them.

If they were so good at investing money in the public good then how come they still have so much money and so much time to bitch about unhoused people?

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago

"It's the only way to be sure," as Ellen Ripley said.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From the billionaire's perspective, confiscatory taxation should be preferable to guillotines.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

According to Zack Rosen, founder of California YIMBY and the Abundance Network, the problem with politics is Americans being too involved. Bemoaning the rise of small-dollar political donations in fundraising documents leaked to the Prospect, Rosen is blunt: “Small dollar internet fundraising makes politics dumber.” Rosen misses what he considers to be a bygone era of elite dominance. Lamenting the current state of democratized influence, Rosen says “the old gatekeepers were political professionals who could count cards; small dollar donors today are amateurs yanking the handles of ActBlue slot machines.”

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wish they would come out and say democracy was a mistake instead of using 100 words to say the same thing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Rationalists are incapable of being concise and clear

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i very much enjoy that that quote is literally the first thing that you find when you search “zack rosen politics” to differentiate from the basketball guy, and also ain’t it a thing how goddamn these conceited assholes always sound so fucking lame / identical to one another / literally never change

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

"Slot machine" is a good comparison for chatbot text extruders, but as an insult against ActBlue it misfires horribly.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Don't tell him that in Canada the maximum legal donation is $1,750 per year per federal party and $1,750 per year to candidates for each federal party. Alberta once banned corporate and union donations in provincial politics entirely. Its almost like the problem is not small money but yet another smartphone app (or SMS service) designed like a slot machine?

The goal now is “operationalizing it into a powerful political faction that drives public outcomes at scale.”

I'm pretty sure I read this exact justification in a document from management explaining why they were simultaneously laying off 20% of total headcount and doing a massive stock buyback.

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, still better than NIMBYs.

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

One day I am gonna write my essay “NIMBYism does not exist” outlining the way that self-professed YIMBYs have carted together a massive swathe of different ideas and motivations into a single huge distraction from actually thinking about politics

ah, i see the other person already made the some point

[–] JFranek@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am a simple man. I just want more trains, more public transit and more housing next to said public transit.

And for better and worse YIMBYs are one of the few people I've seen to take that seriously.

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The essay will include a short section at the beginning acknowledging that lots of self-identified YIMBYs are good people with some sensible ideas about getting hold of the right things, followed by a long explanation of why the essay will not allow this fact to be used to once again derail its point, already stated in the title (“NIMBYism does not exist”), that they have carted together a massive swathe of different ideas and motivations into a single huge distraction from actually thinking about politics

If anything I would expect the nonexistence of NIMBYs to be a good sign for the good-faith YIMBYs because it suggests that the opposition to their preferred policies are both more reasonable and less unified than the existence of a coherent NIMBY ideology would suggest. Of course if your YIMBYism is just a subset of technocratic authoritarianism then the fact that NIMBYs aren't an actual thing is both convenient but hard to acknowledge. Crushing a mirage under your boot in the name of Progress and Civilization is easier than crushing actual people, but if that reality becomes too obvious you start looking like Star Wars kid.