YourNetworkIsHaunted

joined 2 years ago

Update!

The rich fuckers are apparently inclined to acknowledge this as ridiculous, at least in part. Here's hoping that this doesn't stall out and at least some Americans get to report at least one unambiguous public policy win in 2026

My God, it's like if Mark Rosewater was also a Nazi.

Cards on the table, I love M:tG as a game design nerd, and the color pie is a really well-done tool for keeping the game interesting and fun over it's very long history and even longer list of expansions and extensions. From a mechanical perspective, it strikes a beautiful balance between allowing the player to do exactly what they want and preventing the player from just doing everything. Without the color pie, it's easy to see deck building descend into an attempt to assemble the strongest individual cards. It's telling that basically every other CCG has some kind of mechanism to solve the same problem, but I don't think any of them have done it as cleanly or in a way that so smoothly enables players to combine mechanics and elements from different colors.

From a narrative perspective it's a great story engine that allows for all the disparate settings, characters, even genres that the game has explored over its life to still have a cohesive identity - to rhyme. I would argue that part of why the world's beyond sets have seemed wrong is because the settings weren't designed from the ground up to align with that narrative tool, and no matter how good the actual card designers at WotC are it just isn't going to rhyme properly, like trying to translate poetry to a different language family. But that's beside the point.

As a psychological model of the world? I mean I guess it's a tool for categorizing and narrowing down the ways that different people interact with each other or the world or whatever. But that's fundamentally not what it's for! Even as bad as the science behind the MBTI or whatever might be, at least they were designed from looking at actual people and intended to categorize them and understand them. This is the equivalent of trying to do therapy based on people's fucking Hogwarts house. Hell, even that was actually intended to fucking categorize people. Like, even without getting into all the ways that he's extending and distorting the actual color pie as used in Magic to match his own fixations, the whole project is so blindingly wrong-headed from the start that it ought to be an old BuzzFeed listicle and not something that people actually use in any clinical setting, even if it is just his wacko girlfriend.

[To save space, the following several paragraphs of increasingly incoherent ranting and raving are to be filled in by your own imagination. If you do not have an imagination you can consider using an LLM of your choice before going off to fuck yourself]

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

One thing I found really interesting in your recent more reflective writing was part of your experience with hereticon 1:

I think one of the hardest things you can do, and the greatest gifts you can give someone, is give the situation to them straight when they invite you somewhere. I would realize later that the ‘protection’ I felt in a lot of left-leaning circles was a lot more transitory and a lot less honest than what the supposedly irredeemable far-right conference had done for me.

One thing that I see in some broadly left-leaning communities when engaging with some of these concerns is to effectively dismiss the women who have been victimized, often with some reference to the face-eating leopard party. (This doesn't seem to happen as much here at awful.systems, which is one of many things I'll say in favor of our community's standards and practices of moderation and whatever else). This is obviously cruel and unfair to those women, but I want to ask about the underlying idea that the way that these social groups or organizations treat women who talk about SA in those communities is consistent with their general political ideologies, since it seems like there's something missing from that idea beyond the simple lack of empathy.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

I actually didn't refresh to see this until after I had read the pair of "A Normie Girl in Rationalist America" posts (Part 1) (Part 2) and wanted to echo the thanks for sharing your experiences.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Seconding this. I'm really grateful that she's willing to talk about this here, and what confirmed stories like this we have show where the Rationalists really cross the line from being cringe and dumb to actively dangerous and malevolent. But also I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what she's written about it previously (or indeed any of her previous writings) and I don't want to ask anything that's been answered already, especially when careless questions risk prodding old pains.

Ed: I have since done the requisite work of a 10-minute google and longer substack dive but will hold off on specific references or links until we get a confirmation that she's okay with that.

Ed2: this is what I get for going straight into the edit without refreshing first. Foot, meet mouth. Egg, meet face. Etc.

But I listened and agreed that you had serious concerns about certain aspects of this technology. I even agreed when you talked about how frustrating it was that specifically other people wanted to do bad things. I listened as you asked whether I had any options to address those concerns! What more do you want from me before you agree to let me do and say whatever I want!

The whole slice-of-life subgenre is all about this. No real conflict or plot, just scenes of the characters existing in their world. My wife both reads and writes that kind of thing and let me tell you the level of research and worldbuilding that goes into writing a simple meal scene or whatever.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I only know that word from an old (pre-pandemic) book episode of Behind the Bastards, so the immediate association is esoteric antisemitism. I'm not sure how common this is but it seems to support your thesis here.

Some may find her "cringe" but she's doing critical work in stopping the sites you use being DDOSed by AI scrapers.

I mean it's the same thing with sponsored content anywhere, right? The user assumes that the system is providing information in accordance with purposes, but the ads and sponsored results create opportunities for the platform hosting them to profit at the user's expense. AI platforms are absolutely subject to the same economic incentives for corruption as say, search engines, but I don't think they're uniquely so just because the model in question has a more humanlike UI.

But the effectiveness of the fraud is ironically predicated on people continuing to treat it as gambling.

Adding on that this does feel like another application or consequence of the Great Man Theory of Everything, the idea the only the people with power and money matter because their power and influence are intrinsic to their person rather than being contingent on their social position. The average people empowered to commit insider trading by prediction markets have sufficiently limited individual agency that even collectively they don't actually matter. In fact we want them to try their hand at the grift so that their insights can flow to the enlightened ones who can better use that information. They don't matter enough to do real harm, but by watching the attempt we may be able to learn something.

 

Apparently we get a shout-out? Sharing this brings me no joy, and I am sorry for inflicting it upon you.

 

I don't have much to add here, but I know when she started writing about the specifics of what Democrats are worried about being targeted for their "political views" my mind immediately jumped to members of my family who are gender non-conforming or trans. Of course, the more specific you get about any of those concerns the easier it is to see that crypto doesn't actually solve the problem and in fact makes it much worse.

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