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Got another chance to experience slop firsthand when the instructor for my electrician course was 'encouraged' to use the hallucinatron to help create our final exam on the NEC. Now given that the NEC is a dense technical document with a lot of minor but significant variation across its considerable length, this was clearly a perfect use case. Here's how it shook out:

  • It condensed 100 multiple choice questions from the input to 36

  • On one question "1-2 inches" was simplified to "12"

  • Units in general seem to have been dropped off a lot of questions and answer choices. Usually this didn't matter too much but it's a bad look

  • Another question asked about fill percentages for a 30 inch conduit. If you look around your office or he and see a >2ft diameter piece of PVC pipe let me know because the tables in the NEC only go up to 6 inches. This is actually a unit issue again because one of the questions on the input test referred to a 30mm conduit which, you know, does actually exist.

  • Other questions had a correct answer matching a generic part of the NEC, but had additional information added as a distractor that ended up matching to more specific elements that changes the relevant rule.

  • Several questions asked about the reasoning behind a certain rule. Notably the NEC rarely actually gets into that information, as it's already an incredibly long reference and policy document and would be made even more unweildy if it gave the justification for everything that you should be learning as part of becoming a licensed electrician.

  • However, this rarely mattered as the answer choices for those questions uniformly included an obviously correct answer about a generic safety risk and distractors about doing things for cost savings, aesthetic reasons, or arbitrarily.

Given that one of the challenges of this test is time management and looking things up, having to deal with the extra layer of "is this just slop or am I missing something" ended up adding an extra and unintended layer of difficulty onto the test. As always, no matter how egregious or obnoxious the errors introduced by AI, the biggest problem is the loss of trust: you can no longer assume that the text you're reading was put together with the intended purpose in mind rather than being generated to be statistically similar to text matching that purpose. Even if the differences are relatively small in scope, as they were for most questions on the test, they significantly harm the actual communication of information.

[–] nfultz@awful.systems 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/79948695/how-can-i-avoid-using-llms-as-a-software-developer

For me, the ideal usage case for LLMs are not prompts like "write this app" or "write this functionality" which indeed will often wreck havoc, but instead write simple functions. Sure, I can implement a matrix multiplication algorithm or search for optimised versions of it, but so can the LLM in a matter of seconds.

Please, just fucking don't, BLAS and sparse pack and the netlib exists for a reason. Matrix multiply only sounds simple to you because you don't actually care that much. The last thing anyone wants or needs is to start a new job and have to debug your awful regurgitated Numerical Recipes In C, incorrectly ported to python, AT SCALE.

[–] samvines@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

Easiest way to avoid using LLMs as a software developer appears to be to get a religious exemption

[–] anise@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (4 children)

OT: Finally had to break with a long-time friend after he started sliding more and more into fascism. Feeling quite overwhelmed and emotionally exhausted right now.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

That's awful, losing a friend that way is like a death without a funeral.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A keynote talk suggested, "Do away with a physics midterm, ask students to converse with AI Isaac Newton."

In the quotes, we find the useful suggestion that the program could be ELIZA-sized.

— Hi, AIsaac! Can you tell me about physics?

— Go away.

— What?

— You're a moron and you're TRYING TO STEAL MY IDEAS.

— Look, AIsaac, I don't think—

— DID LEIBNIZ PUT YOU UP TO THIS?

— just GO AWAY I have MERCURY FUMES TO BREATHE.

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this one is dystopian

He gave an anecdote about his niece having a hard life moment, and him sending her a personalized song made with Suno to cheer her up. "Not the best, but it took 3 minutes!" Keep in mind, this man is a practicing musician who has composed an entire symphony.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I were a skilled music person and I wanted to spend 3 minutes cheering someone up, I'd record myself playing "Here Comes the Sun" on my guitar, y'know?

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[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

S&P have decided not to allow SpaceX early entry into the index after all https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/sp-global-keeps-fast-entry-proposal-unchanged-spacex-listing-looms-2026-06-04/

"To ​be included in the S&P 500, a company must be profitable under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles in its most recent quarter as ​well as for the sum of its most recent four quarters, according to one of the rules S&P left unchanged."

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago

To ​be included in the S&P 500, a company must be profitable

This is just discrimination. Is S&P scared of innovation? HFSP

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OpenAI and Anthropic right now: oh no

Part of me wants to believe the whole S&P special treatment announcement was designed to bait them into disclosing numbers, but the more realistic side of me believes this is a nervous backpedal because they've realized the inevitable consequences of allowing this blunder to play out in full.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

CW: USA Politics

That suppressed Democratic National Committe 2024 "postmortem" report turns out to have been pure slop, with essentially no references and entirely made-up charts and plots while also missing entire sections. The author can produce exactly zero interview transcripts or source data. It also neglects interrogating failures in addressing trans rights, the genocide in Gaza, or the affordability crisis.

The podcast "It Could Happen Here" does a good job of analysis (disgusted), but long-time sneerers will feel the futility of getting into the weeds with an extruded textual artifact:

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-it-could-happen-here-30717896/episode/whats-in-the-dncs-2024-autopsy-335696933/

Tl:dl the deeply institutionalist DNC chairman appointed his best buddy to the job with zero oversight, and this was the result.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

A second vibecoded Aella website has hit the building

https://www.knockrup.com/

there's a lot of ladies i know without guys, but who want kids. and i go 'would you accept some rich guy paying u a ton of money to just have his kid as a single parent' and they're like 'idk man prob not' and im like 'waht if it was 5m' and they're all magically like 'oh yeah i would do it'

so i made a directory for this, but i am trying to find ladies who would actually like to list themselves with their moonshot baby-funding goal. if u know anybody who wouldn't mind making a profile pls let me know, i wanna publicize the directory but need enough seeded ladies first

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I think it'll eventually come out that the inner circle rationalists already had a breeding program going by this time, deliberately mix and matching possibly oblivious parents according to desired characteristics like increased ability to mentally rotate shapes or an above average polymarket win/loss ratio, and there will be at least a few kids that will grow up having to deal with that shit.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (8 children)

considering how much their philosophy aligns with the plot of dune, i'm afraid you may be right

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[–] maol@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A man who wants to knock up as many women as possible is definitely trustworthy ladies and you should definitely make him the father of your kids 👍

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

Well that's one way to do seed funding.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago

Jeffrey Epstein fantasized about something very similar. Gwern has a blog post about a sperm bank which promised to accept only the highest-quality donations.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

was that written specifically for elon musk

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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

There's a Basilisk reference in the new 007 game, I guess the robot devil is firmly mainstream now.

edit: the in-game painting looks hella AI generated too.

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Thought experiment" is how I'm going to start referring to my "wouldn't it be cool/awful if..." thoughts. Why just in the bath now I've conducted several thought experiments

[–] Eric@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kick it up a level and start calling them Gedankenexperiment

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[–] lurker@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

Porting this over: Hinton believes LLMs have gained consciousness

Bonus: This Emile Torres article on how Bernie Sanders and Neil DeGrasse Tyson have gotten mixed up with Yud and co.

Neil doesn’t seem to buy into rationalism though? He didn’t even really endorse Soares (or mention him at all) he just said that superhuman AI was dangerous. He has a video on how modern AI is overrated

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Regarding the post humanist strain, the thing that kills me is their immediate assumption that solving the world's problems is somehow fundamentally beyond the reach of humanity. Like, we can't build a utopia or make the world better, but if we build something new and "better" than us then it would definitely do that. But that something definitely doesn't come from, say, raising out children to be good people or choosing the right leaders or something so mundane and achievable. It's a fundamentally defeatist ideology, with shades of capitalist realism and millenarian theology.

[–] lurker@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This is also why I find people who claim they’re making AI to “solve climate change” to be insufferable morons. We have a solution to climate change. You and your data centres are actively making the problem worse

[–] ShawiniganHandshake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Okay AGI, how do we fix climate change?"

"Well, I have some ideas but it seems like this would've been a lot easier if you'd stopped emitting greenhouse gasses when you first learned it was a problem."

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[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Maybe that why it's felt like he's been somewhat more polite and explanatory of required knowledge in his latest posts.

I've got to give it to him, he found a winner and didn't give up.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

In Buttcoin related news, apparently Michael J. Saylor has sold some of his bitcoins because he was running out of money and we reached sub 60k. For a quick non dutch source on the selling see this from r/buttcoin (last image). 32 bitcoin was enough to cause a crash. Imagine if Satoshis bitcoins ever moved.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There's some polymarket drama around this where people were betting if Microstrategy would sell any bitcoin before June based on onchain data or credible reporting yadda yadda.

And indeed Microstrategy sold some bitcoin before June and this was credibly reported on.

So of course in the grand tradition of cryptocurrency prediction markets Polymarket resolved the bet to "no".

It's hard to find any good reporting about this, but here's the perspective of someone who lost 500k on this bet: https://xcancel.com/willo2_poly/status/2061640812132516321

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[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] scruiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Anyone familiar with the IPO process have any guessestimates about how long until the public complete S-1 follows? Or odds that it leaks?

[–] fiat_lux@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Reuters suggests 3-6 months for full listing process.

Space X may have filed confidentiality around 1st April, it was published 20th May, and had a target listing of 12th June. Given this is clearly now a race, 6-8 weeks for official S-1 and less than that for a leak?

[–] schnoopy@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dunno if it's been posted yet but apparently microsoft is starting to get sick of losing money and changed billing for copilot. The subreddit is melting down https://old.reddit.com/r/GithubCopilot/

Very funny to watch

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[–] istewart@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Speaking of Aella (I really shouldn't), many have probably already seen this Liberal Currents article that leans heavily on her web-survey sex research dataset:

https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-interracial-cuck-porn-theory-of-everything/

The publication seems to have plenty of traction on Bluesky, for what that's worth, but I think this particular example needs to be retained as an exhibit of the hazards of rehabilitating American liberalism. A low-level affinity for the existing tech industry is always there, as its growth underlaid the benefits that make liberalism appealing. And that means the doorway for entryism by the tech-fascist freaks is always open, and then you're never more than a couple fundraising cycles (whether electoral or investment) away from being right back in this exact same mess.

[–] CinnasVerses@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Edit / the author of the article "is an economics student at George Mason University with interests in tax policy, immigration, and housing. He normally posts about politics on X and Bluesky and occasionally writes long-form articles and essays on his Substack." So he has probably taken a class with Robin Hanson.

As a palette cleanser to the messed up people on social media and in web magazines, I recommend reading Bob Altemeyer's book on the sex lives of students at a minor Canadian university. https://www.lulu.com/shop/bob-altemeyer/sex-and-youth/paperback/product-4414777.html People who search tube sites or fill out sexuality quizzes from an influencer are not typical people any more than Wikipedia editors are.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 1 month ago

Found a fun sneer at AI anthromoporphisation in the arXiv: If LLMs Have Human-Like Attributes, Then So Does Age of Empires II

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