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[–] Spaniard@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 43 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Denmark being at the top of these lists is always so fucking funny to me. We just hide the corruption in a few layers of abstraction and whoops look at that, we're rated extremely well on all the charts!

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Yeah. I laughed seeing Sweden up there. It’s as if our right wing Nazi collaborator government hasn’t been privatising and selling our welfare.

They’re currently vowing to double the amount of surveillance cameras. Oh, and what powers the police force? Palantir. Nevermind the fact that chat control originated with a Swedish politician.

I guess the scale works if corrupt and morally bankrupt is the top of the scale.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nazi collaborator? what???

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The only reason we have a right wing government is because they are actively choosing to work with the Nazi party. Otherwise they’d be a minority.

Table of Nazis and all that.

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[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Could you give me a few examples?

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think we agree on what corruption is. I hear this a lot from Danes in the context of "The farmers and bankers have whole political parties in their pockets" and "all our MPs are career politicians" and "you can't get a nice job unless you know someone".

While these statements aren't fully true, they're definitely real issues. But I would suggest these are not corruption. You could consider them problematic, sure, but corruption is about using your public authority to steal and misappropriate resources to enrich yourself. Stuff like bribes, embezzlement, etc. Which happens far less in Denmark than most other places I'd say.

The main exception is the royal house, which is super duper corrupt.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The first paragraph quotes are complaints about influence peddling, kickbacks, regulatory capture, cronyism, and nepotism, all of which are absolutely forms of corruption. I'm sure others forms probably apply as well.

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[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

The Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) aggregates data from a number of different sources that provide perceptions by business people and country experts of the level of corruption in the public sector.

Each data source that is used to construct the CPI must fulfil the following criteria to qualify as a valid source:

• Quantifies perceptions of corruption in the public sector

• Be based on a reliable and valid methodology, which scores and ranks multiple countries on the same scale

• Performed by a credible institution

• Allow for sufficient variation of scores to distinguish between countries

• Gives ratings to a substantial number of countries

• The rating is given by a country expert or business person

• The institution repeats their assessment at least every two years

Okay so definitely some institution bias there.

13 data sources were used to construct the Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) 2025:

  1. African Development Bank Country Policy and Institutional Assessment 2023 (AFDB)

  2. Bertelsmann Stiftung Sustainable Governance Indicators 2024 (SGI)

  3. Bertelsmann Stiftung Transformation Index 2026 (STI)

  4. Economist Intelligence Unit Country Risk Service 2025 (EIU)

  5. Freedom House Nations in Transit 2024 (FH)

  6. S&P Global Insights Business Conditions and Risk Indicators 2024 (GI)

  7. IMD World Competitiveness Yearbook 2025 (IMD)

  8. Political and Economic Risk Consultancy 2025 (PERC)

  9. The PRS Group International Country Risk Guide 2025 (PRS)

  10. World Bank Country Policy and Institutional Assessment 2024 (WB)

  11. World Economic Forum Executive Opinion Survey 2025 (WEF)

  12. World Justice Project Rule of Law Index 2025 (WJP)

  13. Varieties of Democracy Project 2025 (VDEM)

Looking over the short blurbs in their methodology reads like a list of "freedom index think tanks" that are the exact people that claim it's not corruption it's lobbying. Especially when they land on conclusions like Israel is basically as corrupt as South Korea because we just mark the west bank and Gaza as no data...

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I'm going to play devil's advocate and be pedantic. Lobbying doesn't purely mean bribery. By its strict definition, lobbying means influencing. Was the civil rights movement corrupt for lobbying to allow equal rights for black Americans? They did donate and promise to elect the Democratic Party in exchange for passing the Civil Rights Act. Unions has and always lobbied as well. Environmental groups lobbied to pass stricter environmental regulations.

Lobbying has understandably gained a bad connotation, but not all lobbying have evil intentions and consequences. It ultimately depends on the context. If lobbying disproportionately empowers only a select few at the expense of others' rights, like billionaires lobbying to dilute worker's rights and environmental protection because it affects all of us, then it is unquestionably bad.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The amount of defense of lobbying in this thread is interesting.

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[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In france is not lobbying, is "asking an exception to the prefecture" ... exception to the application of the law, and you have to pay for that. So only wealthy people and big firm could ask for it.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago

Phew, we wouldn't want the poor getting a say.

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I’m pretty sure it’s not just the countries colored red. Even China allows lobbying

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

didn't know norway was cool like that

[–] virku@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Many politicians take jobs in pr firms when they leave. They retain their access badges to Stortinget for life for some unfathomable reason. So the lobbyists trained by being career politicians have unmitigated access to our current ones.

There have also been articles lately about how the right side parties have received orders of magnitude more money in donations than the left.

Both of those things reeks of corruption if you ask me.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

for some unfathomable reason

Seems pretty fathomable to me

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I call I corn holing.

My wife doesn't let me out much

[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please, thank your wife for me 😉

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

As does much of the rest of the county. I slip my chains a few times a week when the cats distract her with snuggles and bringing her lizards for her to eat (my wife has the strangest diet). (it is very light on the lizard but please do not tell my cats it will hurt their feelings).

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 months ago

No they still have corruption

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Hey skill issue not our fault we have the best marketing departments. /s

Canadians are the worst.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The question is the answer. If you don’t have lobbying you have corruption because that’s how people work. By providing the legal route it’s visible, provides opportunity for oversight and regulation.

Problem being when that lobbying comes with lots of money and media in hand and that money outweighs the ability of citizens to compete with the uber-wealthy corporations and people. When regulating lobbying fails or is captured by the rich it’s no better than corruption.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

effectively unregulated lobbying. Lobbying is just asking the government for stuff.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Can I legally enter the Capital Building to speak to my Congressman?

Dozens of veterans and military family members protesting the Iran war were arrested by U.S. Capitol Police on Monday after they occupied the Cannon House Office Building in Washington, D.C.

If the only access to your congressman is through privatized channels and pay-to-play events, then Lobbying is de facto Bribery.

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