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Can I get an electric vehicle without giving up my privacy or autonomy?
I'd like to say just snap any antennae in the vehicle. Or, Faraday cage it. Or if you're really creative custom car OS. TempleOS comes to mind.
We will get Chinese electric cars in the USA when Xi pays Trump more to bring them here than Elon pays him to keep them out. He already laid the groundwork by systematically kneecapping domestic electric programs via his signature racketeering style, knowing he would make more money in the long run fire selling our car market to China than he could ever steal from the domestic market.
Ever been to a Goodwill Bins store? The Art of the Deal was forged in the fetid pressure of the piss-soaked remains at the bottom.
The issue is that US car mfr execs will get less bonuses if they choose to compete with BYD. Its easier to tariff Americans than give a few CEOs a salary cut.
Mary Barra gets all kinds of shit and pressure to resign for saying she believes EVs are the future, despite cutting way back on GMs attempt to build them
Mary Barra’s pay hits a record as GM hands $40M package to rising exec
Yeah sounds about right
Just a friendly reminder BYD defiantly put an Elon style god mode and wireless networking into these heaps.
Here's hoping the backdoor is exposed in a way that is funny like bitlocker and not tragic like the CCP ripping off the CIA
I’m not familiar with the Elon style god mode, what’s that all about?
To no one's surprise...
...i really wanted an EV1 in the late nineties: general motors and the american automotive industry conspired to make certain that domestic market would never incubate, and as a result i've resolved never to buy a vehicle from any of their co-conspirators...
Funny how American mega corps force their way into developing nations using political bullying and destroy these nations smaller businesses with uncompetitive practices but they don't want to risk competing with any foreign company on their own turf
Bring the BYD yang yangwang u7 to canada please...
You mean except in gilliad?
I'd be as concerned about BYD reliability as I would be with Tesla. And, Tesla isn't great.
With consumer product competition being a race to the bottom for nearly every product now, I think my concerns are valid.
tesla has well known issues for at least a decade+ already, musk was able to suppress the reports for a while.
Al my friends and I have BYDs. 100k km each of us and 0 issues. Heck in fact there are a few ones out there with almost 1million km and still going.
I can find fault in any product made so when someone says “0 issues” it really discredits them in my opinion.
The most common issue for BYDs specifically is tires that need to be replaced more often than non-EV drivers expect and optional safety features usually missing from the lower end models.
Most EVs are dead simple compared to ICE cars; when you have literally 100x fewer parts there is a lot less to go wrong. This is especially true when you're not trying to introduce FSD or other superfluous features because you want to be a 1980s cyberpunk villain industrialist.
I just came from test driving the BYD seal and I understand what they mean. Quality wise its simply the best EV maker
I can agree that they're pretty amazing for what they worth but...
Quality wise its simply the best EV maker
They're not the best even among the Chinese EV makers.
You mean the EVs that were just found out to be mostly made by slave or slave-like labor? Yeah I bet.
Everything I've read about the factory in Hungary was true of countless companies in the US. There are people here who work 7 days a week too.
The reason it's an issue in Hungary is because the EU has stronger labor protections than we do. If this were happening in the US, I'm convinced it would be completely ignored.
Yeah, we definitely need stronger labor protections here, unfortunately you're probably right.
Don't get all high and mighty. Companies making cars in the USA have been busted numerous times having children as young as 12 working in the factories.
I don't know why people keep down voting this.
They've found subhuman slave like labour conditions both in the factories in Hungary and Brazil.
Their tech is great, but no one should support any companies that violate human rights. PERIOD!
Because this place is also full of shills and state actors unfortunately. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending anyone here, American car companies are plenty garbage, but I'm tired of the astroturfing about these "amazing Chinese cars"
IKEA and Nestlé have abhorrent US business practices. It's a disgusting display of orientalism, and these practices are illegal in China.
just modeling their behaviours on the likes of Nike, Apple etal.
when ipads were being assembled in India and workers were throwing themselves off the roof of the factory from stress, the soltion was ...to install nets
Like the US factories that have mandatory overtime and if you don't meet the requirement you get fired? 6-7 days a week and 10 hours a day.
Got any source on that? The EV lines are nearly 100% automated.
Got any source on that?
Something something Xinjiang.
Something something under Communism, no freedom
Something something I trust the Freedom Institute For Liberty And Democracy a bit more than your Wumao ass, you CCP shill.