Isn't it weird how a country that constantly claims to be The Best™ at everything has to overtly and systematically restrict its citizens from purchasing better products made elsewhere?
this post was submitted on 13 May 2026
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I'm so confused. I thought the foundation of Capitalism was free market pressure. Doesn't restricting what people can buy and where from kind of undermine the entire ideal?
The foundation of capitalism is Profit is King.
The free market, aka competition, is the least profitable method of production for a company. It's terrible for your bottom line. Profit is the only thing that matters, and specifically Profit by the Metric evaluated by those with the purse-strings; i.e. in the US this is profit per quarter.
'Free Market' economics is not only not limited to capitalism, capitalism is inherently antithetical to competition and the free market and will always seek to eliminate it entirely.
Exactly.
Yes. Absolutely.
I think you're confusing the president with the actual people in the country.
You mean except in gilliad?
They’re in the US just private labeled and “assembled in US”.
And 100% tariffed....
We will get Chinese electric cars in the USA when Xi pays Trump more to bring them here than Elon pays him to keep them out. He already laid the groundwork by systematically kneecapping domestic electric programs via his signature racketeering style, knowing he would make more money in the long run fire selling our car market to China than he could ever steal from the domestic market.
Ever been to a Goodwill Bins store? The Art of the Deal was forged in the fetid pressure of the piss-soaked remains at the bottom.
The issue is that US car mfr execs will get less bonuses if they choose to compete with BYD. Its easier to tariff Americans than give a few CEOs a salary cut.
Remember when Gorbachev visited a supermarket and “it led to the downfall of the USSR.”
We can only hope that Trump will visit a Chinese EV lot and realize the superiority of the Chinese-Communist economy and way of life.
I'm pretty sure he was utterly incapable of such realizations even before his current steep cognitive decline.
When porky flies...
You mean the EVs that were just found out to be mostly made by slave or slave-like labor? Yeah I bet.
Got any source on that? The EV lines are nearly 100% automated.
just modeling their behaviours on the likes of Nike, Apple etal.
when ipads were being assembled in India and workers were throwing themselves off the roof of the factory from stress, the soltion was ...to install nets
That was Foxcon. China.
Don't get all high and mighty. Companies making cars in the USA have been busted numerous times having children as young as 12 working in the factories.
No one reads my fucking other comment I guess.
That’s just how threads go on forums like this. People see your original comment, but replies you make to other comments may get buried. If you want everyone to see your other comment, make it an edit to your original.
I really don't care, starting to dislike this place anyways. I post something personal and get zero replies, I post some dumb shit about Chinese cars and get 80 replies. Meh.
Ok, well you seemed confused and upset, so I was just trying to help. Hope you feel better today.
Everything I've read about the factory in Hungary was true of countless companies in the US. There are people here who work 7 days a week too.
The reason it's an issue in Hungary is because the EU has stronger labor protections than we do. If this were happening in the US, I'm convinced it would be completely ignored.
Yeah, we definitely need stronger labor protections here, unfortunately you're probably right.
Like the US factories that have mandatory overtime and if you don't meet the requirement you get fired? 6-7 days a week and 10 hours a day.
Source?
Edit: Just for clarification, "trust me" is not a source.
I have worked in US factories. I got a write up for missing three whole days of mandatory seven day, ten hour weeks, with a doctor's note. I was fortunate enough at the time that I found a job elsewhere on five day weeks that paid more on that same day because I walked out the door without a meeting, let alone signing anything.
The factory I'm sitting next to.
Yeah, that's what's funny. They're insanely substudized and built by people making $300/mo. They also catch fire from thermal runaway at a massively higher rate.
I don't know why people keep down voting this.
They've found subhuman slave like labour conditions both in the factories in Hungary and Brazil.
Their tech is great, but no one should support any companies that violate human rights. PERIOD!
IKEA and Nestlé have abhorrent US business practices. It's a disgusting display of orientalism, and these practices are illegal in China.
Nestle is one of the worst companies in the world. They are responsible for the death of tens of thousands of children in Africa, droughts and a lot more shit.
I hadn't heard anythink about Ikea. Mind sharing? I though they were pretty good, being a non profit and investing in climate change.
Because this place is also full of shills and state actors unfortunately. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending anyone here, American car companies are plenty garbage, but I'm tired of the astroturfing about these "amazing Chinese cars"
Who owns the hungarian one? I haven't heard about it.
Huh, completely flew under my radar and i follow EVs closely...
I've test driven 4 different chinese brands for shits and giggles... they drive horribly! They lack the most basic features like single pedal driving, the thing EVs are known for?
I'd be as concerned about BYD reliability as I would be with Tesla. And, Tesla isn't great.
With consumer product competition being a race to the bottom for nearly every product now, I think my concerns are valid.
Al my friends and I have BYDs. 100k km each of us and 0 issues. Heck in fact there are a few ones out there with almost 1million km and still going.
I need to see this verified. I call bullshit.
I can find fault in any product made so when someone says “0 issues” it really discredits them in my opinion.
The most common issue for BYDs specifically is tires that need to be replaced more often than non-EV drivers expect and optional safety features usually missing from the lower end models.
Most EVs are dead simple compared to ICE cars; when you have literally 100x fewer parts there is a lot less to go wrong. This is especially true when you're not trying to introduce FSD or other superfluous features because you want to be a 1980s cyberpunk villain industrialist.
Why?
I just came from test driving the BYD seal and I understand what they mean. Quality wise its simply the best EV maker
You cannot determine quality from a test drive.
I consider quality long term reliability and there is zero data on this for most EVs.
Oh, yeah durability you can't grasp with a simple test drive
I can agree that they're pretty amazing for what they worth but...
Quality wise its simply the best EV maker
They're not the best even among the Chinese EV makers.
So happy for comrades fighting globalization.
biden needed to protect the nazi elon's business interests. We had to have tariffs.