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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

RARE EARTH METALS ARE NOT RARE!

Lithium is the 25th most abundant element in Earth's crust!

we see these head lines all the time because it is everywhere, the problem has never been finding it, it's been refining it, and china has a Monopoly on the refining techniques and refuses to do business with anyone who tries to adopt the technology and restricts travel of the people with the knowledge to do so.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Good, the children yearn for the lithium mines. /s

Maybe I should re-train from computer programmer to lithium miner?

[–] uairhahs@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I don't think the people in power care for those sort of miners

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 34 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Really bizarre to write or post an article saying this deposit was 'discovered'. This is decade old news. I saw the headline and thought 'oh nice that's like a whole other Thacker Pass' but it literally is just Thacker Pass.

Somebody needs to figure out a way to prevent people from upvoting headlines of articles they haven't read because as far as I can tell there is absolutely no reason to post or upvote this.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The federal government invades that state for "peace and freedom"

[–] 843563115848@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

And "truth". Don't forget "truth".

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

bet it's inside a national park that the GOP just exposed through government rollbacks.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 9 hours ago

Well, if it's good enough for quartz mining...

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If only there was information in the post about where it is then you wouldn't have to guess. Or you can just make stuff up to get mad at.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

sorry if I don't immediately trust a source of information that was founded by a venture capitalist chud.

[–] gurty@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Has anyone done the ‘US invades itself’ joke yet?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 41 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Lithium isn't quite like gold. It is not rare at all. The news isn't that it is there, the news is that someone has found a place where it is relatively easy to dig, and lots of it.

In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (13 children)

In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

Citation needed.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 22 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Sodium-ion and maaaaybe iron are promising, with sodium-ion making the most headway.

https://batterycouncil.org/battery-facts-and-applications/about-sodium-batteries/

Not quite widely commercially available yet, but I wouldn't invest heavily in lithium is it was me.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ehh.... Lithium batteries are going to be around for quite a while even if sodium ion batteries take off. It's just more energy dense than sodium ion, so it's always going to be better for things like portable electronics.

Sodium ion might take over the market for heavier batteries like stationary power banks.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

Sure, not saying they're going away, just that investment in the new option would be how I would spend my money.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 20 hours ago (12 children)

Consult a periodic table. Lithium will always out perform sodium. Sodium batteries only exist because lithium costs more, but these large deposits are being found worldwide every few months and lithium will drop in price as a commodity. At some point, recycling will require much less new lithium to be mined.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago

A periodic table doesnt dictate marginal rate of return on mining the element.

Consult a periodic table on which element conducts electricity best and then explain why copper is the most commonly used metal for wires.

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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

In only a few years, most batteries will be made without lithium anyway.

Really depends on the use case. Grid-scale storage? Yeah, there's better chemistries for that. Cars? We're probably going to see a mix of chemistries in the same battery packs to tailor use case. In personal electronics? No, lithium will remain king

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[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like america could use some freedom

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago

Bring us some democracy while you're at it.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh good, more earth to pillage.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 23 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Brighter note, to date is still the best way to make batteries, we need it to build storage capabilities for a grid based on renewable energy.

Unfortunately we'll probably end up using it for disposable vapes instead

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Sodium ion batteries would be better for grid storage. They're cheaper, more durable, and work in a wider range of temperatures. Plus they're going to market within the year

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

My understanding is these come with density issues. Basically they need significantly more space. Definently should be scalable for most utilities. Although some in more urban contexts may struggle to find the space initially. Maybe old fossil fuel plants can be refitted.

Not useful for at home systems either, but I hope they continue to improve to that point

[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Iirc if proper safety is employed for lithium ion, the density difference is negligible.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

I bet it's like the one discovered in Portugal which is of a mineral form of it for which there is no technology to industrially extract the lithium.

In other words, about as feasible as "we can extract all the we want from sea water".

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago

Who is going to invade USA this time ?

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

What happened to the last 2.5t lithium deposit? Also these deposits are just the tech to extract ever smaller amounts of valuable material from waste material right? Like oh this land has 0.0001% lithum percent but now that is profitable because advances in valuables extraction, if we crator this region.

China isn't special to have high concentration deposits they are special because no one is going to stop them from digging up hundreds of square/km of Earth in Africa.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 14 hours ago

China's special for controlling a very high proportion of the processing infrastructure that converts the lithium ore to batteries, rather than the extraction. There are a bunch of places that have substantial known lithium reserves.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lithium-reserves-by-country

Country Lithium Reserves 2024 (MT)
Chile 9.3M
Australia 7M
Argentina 4M
China 3M
United States 1.8M
Canada 1.2M
Zimbabwe 480K
Brazil 390K
Portugal 60K
Namibia 14K
Total 27.2M

Australia does the most extraction:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lithium-production-by-country

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

Oil-backed GOP will make sure it doesn't get developed until next century. "Buy oil instead you losers!"

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump: "So the oil is under the lithium? How does this work?"

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 31 points 1 day ago

It's more like his cronies will claim it's under federal jurisdiction then sell all rights to one of trump's sons for a button.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Why is it never in MY yard???

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You own the mineral rights of your backyard?

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

Sounds like it's time to bring the U.S some Freedom! 😎🪖🕊️

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