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In the not-too-distant future, Cruz envisioned, “we’re going to be able to go to parents and say, ‘Hey, you know that Trump Account your kid has? ... Wouldn’t you like to be able to keep a portion of your tax payments that you’re paying already and, instead of sending it to Uncle Sam, wouldn’t you like to have a Trump Account just like your kid does?’'’

“My prediction is, within five years, that is going to have a really compelling constituency,” the Texas Republican added.___

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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 2 days ago (6 children)

401K's are already an artificial siphoning of worker capital into the rich people's stock market game. This is just par for the course.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah and in Holland they've just killed the old reasonable pension system and replaced it with a similar 401(K) type thing 😢

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

This has been the case in much of the US for over a decade now. Pensions are essentially a thing of the past here (unless you have a very strong union, inshallah)

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why does Europe keep americanizing?

401k, tipping schemes, and I swear these aren't the only things I've heard.

Stop trying to be like the US! The US is not better! That should be obvious at this point.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes the problem is that many other things are also blowing over. Like all the anti-trans and anti-migrant rhetoric. This is driving the rise of extreme-right politics.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is so easy to use trans as a scapegoat, because it is so few of them and majority of people don't know any, so they are more willing to accept made up facts.

The small number of them also means they don't have any political pressure.

Gays for example are estimated to be almost 20% of the population, so consequences of attacking them can be significant.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes it bothers me a lot about the trans hate in particular because I am closely associated with the LGBT community and it hurts me seeing this happen to my friends. Some of my ex-friends in Holland are now rabid about all the usual tropes, like athletes, toilets etc. All things that aren't actually true (HRT actually diminishes muscle power a lot and there are almost no trans athletes let alone successful ones, and people don't go through a whole transition so they can walk into the women's restroom, that whole premise is completely ridiculous). I've tried to educate them but the propaganda is constantly flowing in on social media.

Sometimes I wonder if these guys like being angry. Because they seem to be looking for stuff to be angry about all the time.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Sometimes I wonder if these guys like being angry. Because they seem to be looking for stuff to be angry about all the time.

They won't have to look for it, they're being manipulated by social media algorithms.

Doesn't excuse their hate, but it makes more sense when you think of them like old men with dementia who can't keep their racism to themselves because they think this is still 1950...

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really? Do you have a link on that, I missed it, just found out reuters has let me back in without a paywall or I would maybe know already

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I doubt it would be in the world news. But they basically made it into a system where everyone has like a private investment package as a pension.

The government has a lot of info on it but it's all in Dutch.

The problem is the ruling parties of the last 30 years are very neoliberal and they adore America. So it's been nothing but cut social welfare, privatisation and now this.

[–] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you Dutch? Do you have an idea what the sentiment over there is? The US is a lost cause at this point, but I was hoping other places would learn from our idiocy.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes I am but luckily I don't live there anymore. The country has been very neoliberal, idealising America for the last 30 years, led by the VVD party. Lately the extreme-right fascists have had a much larger influence (PVV party and also FVD and JA21). They still do. In 2023 they gained more than 30% of votes. The resulting coalition screwed up very badly by constantly screwing each other over for political gain, so the government collapsed after only a year. The one that came after is the same old shit again.

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[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I don’t give a shit if it’s straight up free money, I won’t ever enroll in a “Trump account”. I’ll just die at 67 instead.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 days ago

It's okay. They'll probably steal whatever you put in it anyway. Imagine if the Trumps make a big stock move and then had everyone's "Trump account" cover the bet at a tidy profit.

Trump has tainted this entire country with this stank. The businesses paying him off. The people licking his crack. The politicians giving him cover. Fuck all of them. Forever.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I did my taxes this year it asked if I wanted to open a Trump Account for my kid, so that it would receive any future deposits the government gave out.

It was so disturbing and disgusting to see something that gross in writing in a real-world context.

No fucking thanks.

[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Could you imagine if Obama made them actually call it Obamacare. There would have been riots.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Absolutely.

It's almost funny, like they are going through a checklist to retcon everything they ever said about their opponents to be projection.

Of course, a lot of it was genuine projection because that's how they think.

Plus obviously it's not funny to watch a cult of personality take hold so easily and wreck so much for so many.

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

There's a cult growing in wallstreetbets.

[–] ryokimball@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago

There is a tiny bit of irony in that this is exactly what many rural voters said about Obamacare. One difference (of many) being that they have been dying because of that choice.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmfao.

I'd rather invest it in a fucking NFT or better yet a bank in North Korea.

How many casinos did this dude bankrupt? Jesus man some people are fucking stupid

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 14 points 2 days ago

Literally stealing tax dollars and using the presidency to make money with his entire family tied into it.

Absolute scum

[–] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

United Corporations of America. Much wealth, Vast poverty.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

They see the state of society in Robocop as the end goal rarher than a warning.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

said the quiet part out loud, eh?

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Haven’t they always wanted this? “Trump accounts” is just branding for what they’ve been calling for for decades.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

He was never one to hold his tongue.

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Social security is a bad investment for an individual, but most people are terrible investors if they invest into their future at all. So by giving everyone that baseline, it helps out everyone else, including the rich. And is therefore a fantastic investment for everyone.

[–] tburkhol@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Social security is not an investment at all. It's young people giving money to old people.

For a while, the country didn't have very many old people, so some of the young-people tax went into the general budget (through purchase of US Treasury bills). Now there's too many old people, and you can bet that the general budget won't be giving them anything.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You misclassify it. The government took the surplus with the promise to pay it back, and now is refusing to do so. They are trying to Default on America.

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[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's more like insurance. Some people won't need it much, others will. It can be beneficial to those.

But the real thing you are 'buying' is peace of mind. That is part of the value of it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're also supposed to value the fact that you are contributing to the overall health and prosperity of your fellow Americans.

Lol imagine that.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well yeah, a stronger society for everyone is better for society as a whole.

In America people view life as a competition, trying to get ahead of the rest. With that mindset it makes sense to not want any programs to help others.

I and many of us in Europe believe more in a stronger society as a whole benefiting everyone. Those who have a good job are lucky. By helping those who don't have work, can't work or are sick we make society a better place for everyone to live in. It's not a surprise we have much less violent crime, more volunteering etc.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In five years you and I are fighting for the last scrap of rat liver, Ted.

[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

No need to fight Cruz for the last scrap of rat liver. You've got a whole pig right there.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"if" is the single dirtiest word in investment contracts

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lift the cap on FICA contributions and appropriate money from the billionaires in any way possible. Hopefully something egregious that will be remembered for decades, something their children and their grandchildren will take as a warning.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

something their children and their grandchildren will take as a warning.

A warning? Like this?

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was thinking more like strip 75% of their net worth from them but perhaps I’m not as imaginative as you

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sometimes the best way to treat a cancerous tumor is to cut it out with a blade.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

You can also poison it or shoot it.

Chemo and shooting it with radiation.

[–] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe they should do something like a milestone payment. So you're able to put money away like social security but you can access it every 10 years. So if I put money away from 20 to 30 I can access that money at 30 and then I can put money away from 30 to 40 and then I can access that money at 40. The whole idea of working your entire life to if you're lucky get social security at 65 is kind of ridiculous to me because you're more prone to drop dead during the 65 to 75 decade. So what a waste that is. If I could get myself 5,000 extra dollars when I hit 30 from the savings that I accrued from the decade prior that would be something.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It’s literally a slush fund Ponzi scheme only a moron would enroll in a Trump account

[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wasn't Ted the only senator who gave his support to Trump's attempted overturning of the 2020 election? Did he not waddle his fat ass into the House with that loser Boebert and give his support because they needed it? Why were NONE of these traitors arrested and charged? Wtf?!?

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's gonna be crazy when you guys dump the economy off a cliff at the end of 2027.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

At current speed, it will happen way before that. Paper oil is being subsidized, there is like a $40 difference between delivery and future prices. Even if more oil is released from SPR, it isn't being used as fast as refined product demand. Thisisfine.jpg

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