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[–] grue@lemmy.world 260 points 2 months ago (5 children)

"Sideloading" is anti-property-rights loaded language.

The correct term for installing something by means other than the Google-approved method is "installing normally."

It is the act of capitulating to Google's control, due to the incorrect belief that you need its permission to use your own property how you want, that needs a new term. So far all I've been able to come up with is "cuckloading," though I'm not happy with how sexism-adjacent it is and am open to suggestions.

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Might be easier to come up with a specific name for installing something from Google. "Google loading" maybe.

The we just go back to "installing".

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Walled-Garden-stalling?

"A googol steps to add an app"

Authoritarian-stall

Package Micromanager

Daddy Google's allowances

Controlware / Slaveware / Theirware

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

"Google loading" isn't derisive enough. The example I came up with isn't quite right, but I do want it to have that same feeling of being a grave insult. Maybe something like "simploading?" Or "dipshitloading?" "Brownloading" (think like "brownnosing")? IDK, I'm just spitballing here.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I was thinking bitchloading. Cause you're their bitch.

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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Awww... Uncle Google just wants what's best for me! So what's the harm in getting into his van? What's the worst that could happen?

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 106 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

And now we know this "reporter", Patrick Campanale, is a bootlicker

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's not jump to conclusions! He just might really be this stupid to believe these claims.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's punish both types in the same manner to make them both stop.

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I like the energy but, ideally, stupidity/ignorance should be punished with education.

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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 98 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Patrick Campanale, you're a spineless corporate shill and I hope one day, you will pay for that spinelessness

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The comments on that article seem to agree with you.

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[–] cybernihongo@reddthat.com 76 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The majority of people

Stop using such shit excuses. Keep Android Open!!

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The majority of people are stupid. Who would have thought.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 20 points 2 months ago

The majority of people have 2 arms. So why bother with prosthetics or research into biofeedback?

See, it's flawless logic /s

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Sideload" is such a dumb name for what is just the act of installing apps of your own choosing.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

May as well call it "jayloading" 😒

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[–] Pipea@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

You're missing the point. It is "just" the act of downloading and installing, which were seen as normal things to do. However, by calling it "sideloading" they can then attach any meaning, any implication they wish. This is now something different and wierd, not something normal people do, does your mom sideload? I'm pretty sure the battle for control of your phone that you bought was lost as soon as we allowed them to call it sideloading.

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I'm not missing any point at all, your post is in essential agreement with mine, lol.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@programming.dev 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

With arguments like those that person already seems like an astroturfer IMO. Also sideloading is the language corporations used to delegitimize decentralized app installation.

[–] Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 2 months ago

The classic "you are too dumb to choose" if only education was a thing...

We are at a time where governments and corporations actively dumb things down until they can make this excuse, instead of actually doing what is right for the people, which is investing in education and treating people as intelligent and autonomous beings.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, it locks alternative sources to the Play Store out. How convenient, right?

[–] quantumvoid0@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago (10 children)

grapheneOS wont be affected by this so, atleast we dont loose all hope

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Indian accent: "Alright mam, when you install this app, I will contact you tomorrow and we can proceed with the transfer. For security reasons, don't tell anyone you received this call."

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 19 points 2 months ago

Right, the real solution is not letting old people answer phone calls anymore, I guess, lol.

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As someone who replaces "core" apps with FOSS alternatives, the 24 hour wait is quite a punishment.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 47 points 2 months ago

The problem is this is already being used to do political censorship so any restriction on what users can install on their device is harmful, because it's not just weird nerds but people need to use other apps like ice watch

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are there any real statistics about the real number of scams deployed via "sideloading non verified apps?"

I do not know the number. But I don't think there are that many cases. Most scams I've seen have been via web or via a normal app downloaded on the appStore.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Scams require some level of idiocy, complacency or distractedness to pull off. If you're going out of your way to install non-standard apps you're likely paying enough attention not to fall for it.

If youre getting a mark to install something on their phone, you'd probably have just as much luck getting them to sent you a Western Union cheque.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)
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[–] Archr@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can get behind a delay to enable side loading and the warning screens are nothing to me since I can just click past them. Though the delay should be more like 30-60 minutes at the most.

The real problem is requiring devs (even outside of the play store) to identify themselves. That is ridiculous and does absolutely nothing to secure the device for the user. (It only secures it under Google for their interests)

[–] elvith@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I mean I get the idea of the forced restart and the general waiting time - assuming a scammer wants you to install a "side loaded" app, it will disconnect their call with you, of they're calling you on that phone. Same for a waiting period that forces the scammer to either hang around on the phone with you for a long time or to call again some time in the future.

But 24h?

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[–] newton@feddit.online 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Everything on my grapheneOs is sideloaded,

[–] grue@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everything on my GrapheneOS is installed normally, by which I mean "however the fuck I want".

Fuck allowing the act of exercising your rights as the owner to be demonized with bullshit loaded language!

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[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

Sideload deez nuts

[–] Mesa@programming.dev 20 points 2 months ago

I thought surely this was a joke. ... I thought.

Sent from GrapheneOS

[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The opinions of a christian youth pastor who loves claude code.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I prefer package managers & installing software to locked corpo market bullshit loading

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What kind of apps are there that "typically" need to be installed "urgently"? Sure I can work around the delay most of the time (and be at worst annoyed out of my brain by it) but that's not how a user experience is meant to be designed, is it?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anything I want right now that Google is blocking me from is urgent.

How long am I supposed to beg to use my own device?

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[–] someone@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Bruh screw android and its updates, it fucked up and it keeps getting worse, its updates are very occasional, at least if they were worthy then fine i'm with ya, but no, they are just junk, they slow down my phone and are many times buggy; it keep restricting users and developers under the term of 'security', go fuck ur security, I know what I'm doing, either gimme full control over my property or fuck off. This is MA phone NOT urs!

When I get a new phone, I'll either find a way to get an old android version like v10, or just find another system.

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