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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 211 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

"Why does a toaster need internet connection?"
"So it can receive firmware updates."
"Why does it need any updates?"
"Security patches because of the internet connectivity."

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 129 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

"What benefit does the Internet connection offer?"

"You can make toast remotely."

"but don't I have to put bread in?"

"..."

"don't I need to be there to eat it?"

"..."

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you suggest we need to add a system that can put bread and dispose of it when it's ready.

[–] BiggestPiggest@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We once had a printer that we couldn’t stop or the main software would fail. We didn’t want the printouts so we fed it directly into a shredder.

The good old days of recycling and feed paper.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Don't give them ideas! Next it will only toast revolition brand bread. Any other will not turn on the toaster and void warranty

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In the future, all of our meals will be in the cloud. An implant in your tongue will allow you to taste them. Calories will be distributed into your stomach with an HP Cartidge which you must replace regularly.

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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Wild guess, it's one of those gadget toasters that can toast images in bread. There are some that toast the weather forecast or a selfie.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't, besides some preconfigured toast settings, it features a photo frame on the display. That's it

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In case there are innovations in bread.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 79 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Giving internet access to something that resistively heats wires until they glow seems like an obvious safety issue.

Luddite for Life!

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 63 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I normally never shame buyers of "smart" products that end up being bricked, stupid or invading their privacy, because it's totally conceivable that they want advanced functions in a product that couldn't be achieved in the past and are now made possible by tech and ubiquitous internet, but corrupted by surveillance capitalism and greedy monopolistic corporations.

But a toaster with a giant screen that needs an OTA firmware update? Really? Like... why? When was the last time you thought "I wish my toaster had a big screen and internet access..."

Personally, I'm waiting for Talkie Toaster.

Talkie Toaster

[–] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 31 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The future could be so fun with the technology we have, but we're ruled by imaginationless corporate minimalists.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Big Tech has boundless imagination when it comes to invading your privacy and putting you under surveillance every which way. And they even managed to convince people to give them their hard-earned for the privilege!

People pay beaucoup bucks for smart nonsense like this idiotic toaster, and voluntarily turn themselves into the manufacturer's true product. The dystopia that people have slowly accepted as their new normal over the past 30 years is nothing short of staggering.

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[–] vext01@feddit.uk 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Given that the universe is infinite, and that god is infinite.... Would anyone like.some toast?

Howdy dooodley do!

We should make a RD community. I love it.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Very old internet story … seems appropriate here:

How To Build A Better Toaster

Day 1:
My boss, an engineer from the pre-CAD days, has successfully brought a generation of products from Acme Toaster Corp’s engineering labs to market. Bob is a wonder of mechanical ingenuity. All of us in the design department have the utmost respect for him, so I was honored when he appointed me the lead designer on the new Acme 2000 Toaster.

Day 6:
We met with the president, head of sales, and the marketing vice president today to hammer out the project’s requirements and specifications. Here at Acme, our market share is eroding to low-cost imports. We agreed to meet a cost of goods of $9.50 (100,000 units). I’ve identified the critical issue in the new design: a replacement for the timing spring we’ve used since the original 1922 model. Research with the focus groups shows that consumers set high expectations for their breakfast foods. Cafe latte from Starbucks goes best with a precise level of toast browning. The Acme 2000 will give our customers the breakfast experience they desire. I estimated a design budget of $21,590 for this project and final delivery in seven weeks. I’ll need one assistant designer to help with the drawing packages. This is my first chance to supervise!

Day 23:
We’ve found the ideal spring material. Best of all, it’s a well-proven technology. Our projected cost of goods is almost $1.50 lower than our goal. Our rough prototype, which was completed just 12 days after we started, has been servicing the employee cafeteria for a week without a single hiccup. Toast quality exceeds projections.

Day 24:
A major aerospace company that had run out of defense contractors to acquire has just snapped up that block of Acme stock sold to the Mackenzie family in the ’50s. At a company-wide meeting, corporate assured us that this sale was only an investment and that nothing will change.

Day 30:
I showed the Acme 2000’s exquisitely crafted toast-timing mechanism to Ms. Primrose, the new engineering auditor. The single spring and four interlocking lever arms are things of beauty to me.

Day 36:
The design is complete. We’re starting a prototype run of 500 toasters tomorrow. I’m starting to wrap up the engineering effort. My new assistant did a wonderful job.

Day 38:
Suddenly, a major snag happened. Bob called me into his office. He seemed very uneasy as he informed me that those on high feel that the Acme 2000 is obsolete—something about using springs in the silicon age. I reminded Bob that the consultants had looked at using a microprocessor but figured that an electronic design would exceed our cost target by almost 50% with no real benefit in terms of toast quality. “With a computer, our customers can load the bread the night before, program a finish time, and get a perfect slice of toast when they awaken,” Bob intoned, as if reading from a script.

Day 48:
Bill Compguy, the new microprocessor whiz, scrapped my idea of using a dedicated 4-bit CPU. “We need some horsepower if we’re gonna program this puppy in C,” he said, while I stared fascinated at the old crumbs stuck in his wild beard. “Time-to-market, you know. Delivery is due in three months. We’ll just pop this cool new 8-bitter I found into it, whip up some code, and ship to the end user.”

Day 120:
The good news is that I’m getting to stretch my mechanical-design abilities. Bill convinced management that the old spring-loaded, press-down lever control is obsolete. I’ve designed a “motorized insertion port,” stealing ideas from a CD-ROM drive. Three cross-coupled, safety-interlock micro switches ensure that the heaters won’t come on unless users properly insert the toast. We’re seeing some reliability problems due to the temperature extremes, but I’m sure we can work those out.

Day 132:
New schedule: We now expect delivery in three months. We’ve replaced the 8-bitter with a Harvard-architecture, 16-bit, 3-MIPS CPU.

Day 172:
New schedule: We now expect delivery in three months.

Day 194:
The auditors convinced management we really need a graphical user interface with a full-screen LCD. “You’re gonna need some horsepower to drive that,” Bill warned us. “I recommend a 386 with a half-meg of RAM.” He went back to design Revision J of the PC board.

Day 268:
New schedule: We now expect delivery in three months. We’ve cured most of the electronics’ temperature problems with a pair of fans, though management is complaining about the noise. Bob sits in his office all day, door locked, drinking Jack Daniels. Like clockwork, his wife calls every night around midnight, sobbing. I’m worried about him and mentioned my concern to Chuck. “Wife?” he asked. “Wife? Yeah, I think I’ve got one of those, and two or three kids, too. Now, let’s just stick another meg of RAM in here, OK?”

Day 290:
We gave up on the custom GUI and are now installing Windows CE. The auditors applauded Bill’s plan to upgrade to a Pentium with 32 MB of RAM. There’s still no functioning code, but the toaster is genuinely impressive: four circuit boards, bundles of cables, and a gigabyte of hard-disk space. “This sucker has more computer power than the entire world did 20 years ago,” Bill boasted proudly.

Day 384:
Toast quality is sub-par. The addition of two more cooling fans keeps the electronics to a reasonable temperature but removes too much heat from the toast. I’m struggling with baffles to vector the air, but the thrust of all these fans spins the toaster around.

Day 410:
New schedule: We now expect delivery in three months. We switched from C++ to Java. “That’ll get them pesky memory-allocation bugs, for sure,” Bill told his team of 15 programmers. This approach seems like a good idea to me, because Java is platform-independent, and there are rumors circulating that we’re porting to a SPARC station.

Day 530:
New schedule: We now expect delivery in three months. I mastered the temperature problems by removing all of the fans and the heating elements. The Pentium is now thermally bonded to the toast. We found a thermal grease that isn’t too poisonous. Our marketing people feel that the slight degradation in taste from the grease will be more than compensated for by the “toasting experience that can only come from a CISC-based, 32-bit multitasking machine running the latest multi-platform software.”

Day 610:
The product ships. It weighs 72 lb and costs $325.

https://a.co/d/09osT5Dh

Who needs fiction. This one is $399

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This story was so much funnier before I worked in tech startups.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Yeah been there so I can totally relate. The requirements sometimes were asinine. It was the first time I learned about feature creep.

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[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

For anyone else looking for the source text: https://www.ganssle.com/articles/toastallessons.htm

This is the first time I've encountered it and rings way too real, even though it was likely written a while ago.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

https://a.co/d/09osT5Dh

Who needs fiction. This one is $399

I read "patented design crisps the outside of sandwich while heating and melting inside" and found its patented design also caused me to die a little on the inside.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

I think one of the most interesting things about this story is how prophetic it was almost 30 years ago. It almost predicted enshittification.

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[–] prex@aussie.zone 39 points 4 months ago

‘it is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all.

‘In other words – and this is the rock-solid principle on which the whole of the Corporation’s Galaxy-wide success is founded – their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws.’

Douglas Adams

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41085118-unauthorized-bread

The titular story is highly recommended. Published in 2019. Reality got pretty close to that in just 7 years.

edit: and they dare brand it Revolution 😡

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[–] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you know there is a toaster from the 50's which is totally mechanically automatic? It slowly lowers and raises the bread automatically, controls the darkening of the bread by measuring the slice's temperature, and it is all powered by the thermal expansion of the heating coils themselves.

[–] DiarrheaSommelier@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

Ah, a fellow of culture I see. I also watch Technology Connections and also wish Radiant Control toasters were still a thing.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

At work we have some boring toasters. It uses a dial for how well burned you want your bread. It works perfectly well. Purely electromechanical.

Why the fuck does it need this is beyond me.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

It was $5 cheaper.

Now give up your email address, phone number, name, mailing address, and sign in to our app to burn your bread.

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[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Imagine installing electronics, which are sensitive to extreme heat, into a toaster.

Now imagine someone buying that toaster.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Ovens produce extreme heat and for a much longer time than toasters, and they've had some form of electronics for decades.

Having said that, they don't tend to have touch screens, and for a very good reason.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

I don't understand the appeal of this crap.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

tech enthusiasts be like: my house is soooo smart!

tech workers be like: Fuck that shit.

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[–] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder if future generations of toasters will require age verification since they are running an OS that can presumably get online? I hate it here, but luckily I have an analog toaster I intend to keep.

Maybe in the future during rolling blackouts caused by ai they'll only permit a light toasting.

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[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago

The toaster would go well with butter bot.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

volume, brightness, time and date... i dont need any of those things out of a toaster

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[–] notso@feddit.org 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the novella Unauthorized Bread by Cory Doctorow.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even the toaster is calling for a revolution.

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[–] islandcoda42@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thing probably uses 4 gb a day 😂

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I love tech, I love gadgets, our smart home is full to the brim with automation and information-gathering. So I'm a full-blooded nerd for 45yrs now.

But this? This and cars is where I draw the line. What could possibly be one single tiny benefit of having a toaster like that? Is there even one? I couldn't find one. Except that there's a cool display on it that can't serve any useful info.

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[–] bss03@infosec.pub 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the apartments' appliances are designed to extract revenue. The fridge won't chill unauthorized groceries. The toaster won't toast unauthorized bread.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41085118-unauthorized-bread

The DMCA makes it illegal to toast anything the software refuses to toast. This is legal reality today, despite being featured in (dystopic) science fiction.

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[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The "revolution" written under the screen is just the cherry on top. (+ the irony of my comment saying a thing that is on the bottom of the screen is "the cherry on top".)

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Why in the world would you need a screen on a toaster?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

To see the status of the software update

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[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago

Anyone who buys "Smart" products gets what they deserve.

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I found it funny at first, but ..... it's not even fake! That DOES exist.

I'd laugh in the face of anyone trying to sell me one of these. I'd laugh so hard they quit their job on the spot.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

I mean, anyone who actually bought that gets exactly what they deserve.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

This can't be real. I refuse to look it up. I'm going to bed now

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