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Note: Judging by the comments, a lot of people are obviously not reading the post and are instead assuming we are calling for defederation of lemmy.world. That is not the case, and in fact the opposite is true. LW already temporarily defederated anarchist.nexus once, and the evidence suggests Mr Kaplan is now pushing for full defederation of all the FAF instances. We are trying to build a coalition of instances that will agree to defederate from lemmy.world IF Kaplan goes ahead with the defederation. Apologies if you weren't aware of the context.


🏴‍☠️ Hoist the Black Flag: Pledge to Boycott Lemmy World!

... if Lemmy World dares to defederate from any ship in the Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla - https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/, https://anarchist.nexus/, and https://quokk.au/.


Mateys, we can’t let a mega‑instance captain bully the rest of the fleet just because their ship’s bigger. If Lemmy World tries to throw the FAF overboard, we’re calling for a show of solidarity: a fediverse blockade of Lemmy World in response, until the landlubbers see reason (i.e., there is an acceptable change in their leadership and/or this policy).

This is about mutual aid, not mutiny - standing together so no single admin gets to rule the seas unchallenged. A united armada of smaller instances can absolutely blunt Lemmy World’s outsized influence (and, let’s be honest, their ego).


☠️ A word to the captains: before hoisting colours or locking in a course, we ask ye to let your crew have their say. Run a poll, open the deck for discussion, and listen to the voices aboard your vessel. These seas belong to all of us, and decisions that shape our fediverse should be made together, not from the captain’s quarters alone.

If other captains be keen to chart this course with us, drop anchor and make the pledge public in the comments. The more hands on deck, the harder it is to sink any one of us. Let us know if you are holding a vote!

dbzer0 and AN members can vote on this pledge in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and quokk.au will be holding their own vote.

🏴‍☠️ Solidarity forever, and fair winds to the Flotilla!

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[–] div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Acknowledged governance topic opened by https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/flatworm7591 Early Bird: a parrot, orangered colors Jolly Roger: an icon of pirate jolly roger skull wearing a hat, in orange-red, black and white colors A book with a loaf of bread in the cover  in orange-red, black and white colors Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors First Mate: a pirate ship's steering wheel, orangered color

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 121 points 1 week ago (16 children)

To clarify, this is not a vote to defederate. This a call to instance admins to pledge for a mutual protection pact.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago

NGL, I kinda want us to defederate.

I've started to reply a few times trying to dig into what Zionism exactly means and all that. The truth is, the nuances of what is happening over there is a bit beyond my understanding. I thought it was wrong when the Germans were rounding up and gassing Jews in the 1930s and 1940s. And I think it's wrong that the Jews are now committing genocide against the Palestinians. The difference is, the world sided against genocide almost 100 years ago... but most of the world seems to be siding with genocide now. I don't get it.

Here's what I do know: Lemmy and the Fediverse is fucking awesome. I even kind of like how shit places like Truth Social and Lemmy.world can exist... I do not believe in an echo chamber. That said, if someone is toxic, I think it is fine to cut them out. I think the problem if we do not defederate is, we justify the actions of the people who are fighting to make Lemmy.world the only instance people care about. I browse /all, which means I see all the comms on all the instances. And it seems like there are two kinds of Lemmings who create posts: those who cross-post across Lemmy.world, and those who cross-post across multiple instances. I like the latter a lot more, because if we do defederate from Lemmy.world, then we'll still get content. The former group bugs me because I feel like interacting with them at all supports Lemmy.world, and if they're siding with genocide, against human rights, I do not want to be a part of that.

Since the drama with Lemmy.world has began, I've seen that a lot of the communities I enjoy following are actually on Lemmy.world. But I don't want to support them. I make long, thoughtful posts and I feel we need more of that on Lemmy. I don't want to contribute to people I'm politically and/or ethically opposed to the actions of. I would rather dbzer0 or other flotilla involved or flotilla aligned instances had those same comms and discussions, and that my energy would be better spent there.

Even though I may be among the least political dbzer0 user, I'm here because I looked at the instances and said "hey, I don't really dig everything dbzer0 is about, but they seem to support free speech, and I'm here for that." I looked at Lemmy.world too, but it just seemed too... I dunno. Too much like Reddit? Too... corporate? I like that it's big and it brings new Lemmings in, but I don't like the lack of diversity of opinion over there. Reddit was such an echo chamber, and while its opinions shifted, it was always a bit of a problem. I'd rather be welcomed on an instance I don't fully agree with because it supports freedom of speech (to a point, obviously; we're never free from consequences) than walk on eggshells on Lemmy.world.

I also have a PieFed account on an instance that is wholly apolitical, so I don't think it will defederate from anyone or be defederated by anyone... except maybe the porn one? But no great loss there, IMO.

...yeah, I think this is the one I post.

No this is a vote to see if .world defederates us

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Who could've thought that a bunch of nerds all running their own instances would have drama.... 😂

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I blocked Lemmy.world and have not noticed much. I can't see FuckCars or Cooking, but other than that, I just get more tech articles. No issues here without it.

[–] The_Helmet_Stays_On@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think it would be a good idea. We need to band together against LW.

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[–] radiowaffle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

As someone who is brand new to the whole Fediverse and Lemmy and all of that, I am rapidly trying to piece together what's happened/happening here. If a kind soul would help me with some context that would be phenomenal. I know .world is like, THE biggest instance that hosts very large communities, but I am not sure what exactly is happening with the instance as a whole, or what we are wanting to happen to it.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

.world has threatened to defed from db0 and their associated piefed instance, anarchist.nexus, due to a spat between a (now former) admin of AN and an admin of world.

The admin of world took the AN admin's "kill all zionists" statement personally, and defeded AN without making any attempts to communicate with other admins of db0 or AN, and did not announce this defed until world's userbase caught on to it.

Once db0 and AN admins caught on, the AN admin involved with this stepped down. The butthurt world admin refederated with AN under duress, but is still vaguely threatening to defed again.

Defederation means cutting communication between the instances. Basically nothing from world would be visible to db0 and AN.


We (db0 and anarchist.nexus) aren't looking to defed from world, but this post is trying to get other instances to band together to all defed from world if and only if they follow through with defeding us again. Trying to get enough of the smaller lemmy instances aligned so that we can't all just be pushed around by world.


Stamets has made a deeper breakdown of events here.

[–] div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] radiowaffle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this some kind of mark? It seems this is only posted in response to massively downvoted or removed comments.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's just a sort of flair for your "rank" in terms of voting power and interests. That image marks you as a "landlubber": you're a relatively new account on the instance, you didn't call out anything explicitly piracy or anarchy related when you signed up, you haven't donated to support the instance, you aren't part of the admin staff, and you aren't one of the seven or so "vouched for" users. It's also used to denote users from other instances.

Lemmy doesn't have built in user flair like reddit does, so the bot replies with the image icon instead.

[–] praxispotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I moved here from lemmy.world. It’s nice here!

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

Welcome aboard, matey!

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[–] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Aye from YuruLemmy! We'll gonna block l.w when they block you all!

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[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I am gonna ask the admins of my instance if they make a post for this.

Btw has anyone an overview how big lemmy.world is in comparison to the anarchist instances and in comparison to instances like lemmy.ml?

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

On desktop you can see the monthly active users of each server in the sidebar:

  • lemmy.world: 13.6K users / month
  • lemmy.ml: 2.01K users / month
  • dbzer0.com: 1.38K users / month
  • anarchist.nexus: It's login-only, so I can't see it, but FediDB reports 84 users / month.

(Not sure what other anarchist instances are there, but same idea.)

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[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Reading this on lemmy.world and wondering what new online drama am I missing.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (22 children)

You can read all about it here!

TL;DR: lemmy.world zionist admin got banned from anarchist.nexus for pro-Zionist stance, took someone's display name as a personal death threat, and single-handedly defederated LW from AN without conferring with the rest of the LW team or announcing it properly

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[–] Rieux@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wow. i chased the rabbit hole in this drama and im surprised whats going on here. i wish i could support you.

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[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just saying as a FAF user - full support here, and I hope other instance admins take note of this long history of behavior to be ready to support as well.

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[–] Furbag@pawb.social 13 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I've been meaning to make a switch to a more niche instance for a while and I couldn't be bothered to motivate myself to do it, so I guess this is as good of an excuse as any. Hello pawb.social.

To be honest, I find the instance tribalism to be a bit cringe and painting entire swathes of users with the same broad brush is just not something I'm interested in taking part in. That being said, I also don't want to be associated with the armpits of the internet either, and when you start catching strays just because you have .world at the end of your username swapping to a more low-key instance is more an act of self-preservation than it is protesting anything about how lemmy.world was run for average users like myself (I posted lots of anti-Israel sentiments on /c/politics and never once got a ban or a warning for that specifically), but I see the benefit in diversifying the fediverse a little bit more.

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[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So we are voting to confirm that if they attack one of us they attack all of us?

Obvious y is obvious, no matter how much fascists are simply incapable of understanding the concept of solidarity. May this serve them a lesson.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In favor of this, lemmy.world needs accountability for their actions, them throwing their weight around to justify bad administration decisions is exactly what we feared when Facebook said they would enter the fediverse with threads. Hopefully we can get more instances on board with this like with Fedipact, or it won't mean a whole lot.

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