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This is a FAF defederation vote for !multiverse.soulism.net. Note that I have tried to summarize views both for and against this proposal, rather than pushing a particular view. Please feel free to comment if you want to contribute your own thoughts and experiences.

The reason for this vote is that admins have been getting a lot of reports about Grail and Their instance from our users lately, but tbh I am not sure whether the reports warrant a ban or not. While most cases are more clear-cut, I wanted some more admin & community feedback on this one.


For context, the soulism instance is (for all practical purposes) a personal instance run by infamous fediverse "personality", Grail. Grail is suspected to be a recent alt of DroneRights aka HardlightCereal aka Exocrinous aka Dragon Rider aka Drag.

Grail, the current incarnation, is (imo) a liberal progressive masquerading as a leftist (a self-described "Anarcho-Antireal theorist" whatever the fuck that is). And I really don't think this qualifies as a "No true Scotsman" situation where it's arguable either way - it's immediately obvious from reading Their comment history.

I don't really want to rehash the extensive history of this user and Their alts in detail here, however I'm pretty sure long-term Lemmy users will be aware of at least some of these previous alt accounts, which have been almost universally banned. I'll try my best to summarize the issues below.


The case for defederation

Here's some recent examples/summaries of why the user is so problematic:

  • Concise summary of past trolling behavior: .
  • Recent YPTB post: Banned for Nuttin'
  • Recent example of Grail's electoralism and criticism of c/flipanarchy rules, including a claim that pugjesus isn't a turbolib ๐Ÿ˜‚ https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63720883
  • More blue MAGA electoralism demonstrating that the user is about as "leftist" as Joe Biden

Recent examples of hating on / agitating against our instance:


The case against defederation

  • Grail is neurodivergent (trans and NPD afaik), so we should be willing to make some accommodations for Their behaviour
  • While some folks (including myself at the time, unfortunately) took the "DroneRights" account as an attempt to troll transgender folk with the "my gender is an attack helicopter" line, it could also have been a genuine attempt to advocate for xenogenders. There's no way to know 100% for sure what Their intentions truly were, but on reflection and with the benefit of time, I think it could be reasonably argued They should have been given the benefit of the doubt on that topic.
  • Just because this user seems to have a grudge against our instance and bad-jackets anyone to their left as politically "right wing" doesn't mean we should ban them. They are still entitled to express their opinion.
  • Given Grail's unique personality, is there anywhere else They would potentially fit in other than the Fediverse? Maybe we should cut Them some slack and just let users block Them individually.

Warning

Please do not attempt to re-litigate the topic of xenogenders in this post. Such comments will be removed as off-topic. As an instance, our policy is to respect personal pronouns, whatever they are. This is not a referendum on the validity of xenogenders. The topic of the post is clear - whether or not we should defederate from the multiverse.soulism.net instance. If you want to bring your own experiences into the comments that is fine, but please keep them pertinent to whether or not we should defederate from this instance / user on the basis of Their problematic behaviours, not on the basis of Their identity or pronouns.


Instructions

The proposal is:

We should defederate from the multiverse.soulism.net instance due to an extensive history of trolling by the main admin's alts, and due to the admin being openly hostile to our instance.

Please upvote this post to vote for defederation. Downvote to remain federated. This proposal will require a 2/3 majority to pass.

P.S., Please be sure to use Grail's preferred pronouns of "capitalised They/Them", so we don't have to remove comments for misgendering.

Edit: This will include banning Grail's alts as well, for clarity.

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[โ€“] div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago) (5 children)

Acknowledged governance topic opened by https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/flatworm7591 Early Bird: a parrot, orangered colors Jolly Roger: an icon of pirate jolly roger skull wearing a hat, in orange-red, black and white colors A book with a loaf of bread in the cover  in orange-red, black and white colors Deck Hand: An icon of anchor crossed with two staves in orange-red, black and white colors First Mate: a pirate ship's steering wheel, orangered color

This is a simple majority vote. The current tally is as follows:

  • For: First Mate: a pirate ship's steering wheel, orangered color (3), Vouched: a minimalist compass icon. Orangered color (7), Powder Monkey: An icon of powder barrel in orange-red, black and white colors (1), MVP: a star icon, in orange-red, black and white colors (1)
  • Against: Salty Dog: An icon of two crossed cutlasses with a skull in the center in orange-red, black and white colors Powder Monkey: An icon of powder barrel in orange-red, black and white colors
  • Local Community: +0.1
  • Outsider sentiment: Positive
  • Total: +10.1
  • Percentage: 86.00%

This vote will complete in 5.54 hours

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[โ€“] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

~~Hm, while this vote is technically passing, I have a concern about quorum. Do we really want to enforce a defederation with only 7 votes?~~

Edit : wait lemme check the bot didn't die instead

Edit2: nevermind the bot bugged out

Good pickup, dbo. The numbers look a lot more solid now.

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[โ€“] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is sort of unrelated, but I really hate how the world "electoralism" gets thrown around lately, when most of the accusations are pretty far off the mark, and seem to come back around as being generally anti-democracy and edgy. I think a lot of people here genuinely do not understand the concept.

It's particularly upsetting when it's being used as a primary argument in favor of defederation over one person's alleged behavior and in this case - ideas. I have always had a soft spot for db0 but some of the recent meta seems like distractions at best

[โ€“] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's by no means the primary argument. The individual is a relentless troll and drama farmer who just happens to be cosplaying as an anarchist at the moment. The constant campaigning for the democrats was just just the icing on the cake.

You are right I think to say that people don't seem to understand our policy on electoralism. It's not so much that we don't allow any expression of electoralism, it's that be don't allow people to shame or condescend to those of our users who are anti-electoralism. That's an important distinction. Many leftists choose to vote third party, or to abstain, or to hold their nose and vote for the dems but not go on about it. And that's perfectly fine. All of the above. That's democracy in action.

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